Thanks for the great picture! It is almost hard to comprehend those 60-inch five-coupled drivers cranked up to 90 mph. That would have been something to see!
It is! And surprisingly quiet on level terrain.
Found this on you tube. Impressive and clearly the fastest Decapods on the planet!
About 3 minutes:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VkRQduRw4m4
About 5 minutes:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xfmkz3M9BMY
About 1 minute:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KnOS-r0zdRU
The mention of 9Fs. Here is 92220 'Evening Star' on 'the Long Drag' Settle & Carlisle Line.
David
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The new P2 being built.
I've said it before on this forum- If you've never been to Meiningen, go! Awesome hardly descibes it.
Although it has been mentioned before, the new-build GWR Hawksworth County Class has had a couple of major milestones lately.
https://www.county1014.org/gwr-2-cylinder-4-6-0s
This page gives a very good explanation of the whole group of GWR two cylinder 4-6-0s, of which no less than three new builds are complete or under way...
Peter
Oh,Firelock,
There was one in Germany, the Saxon 19 class and it also had the drive rods go to the second drive axle. It was a four cylinder compound locomotive and two were rebuilt with new boilers by DR. DR was much more steam friendly than DB, DB was more 'unfriendly' to steam, even in the 1950s. They had too many locomotives to care. The Saxons built this type mainly because of their ramp out of Dresden where a 4-6-2 was not enough for the heavy trains.
Much later towards the end of steam they found they could do it with the 01 class, and the runs were celebrated by the steam friends. Unhappily all this ended before I was born again.
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This stuff is so cool, I love Decapods!
Too bad one of the Erie's or Susquehanna's didn't survive.
Well, kgbw49,
the class 9 videos are faaar from running 90 mph ...
On one take you can see the engine sway due to the hefty anguling of the drive rods when thy go through the lower mid-stroke position under piston thrust.
Ok,I have some British steam vid links here, too: and nice scenery it is! (you have to copy and paste the links):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrcyADZzDKQPickering to Whiteby on NYMR, first car behind locomotive running backwards - nice jointed rails, well put in order, engine running smoothly with valve gear orderly tuned. The landscape with nice woods is lovely; it would be a pleasure to ride the paths with a steam railway alongside with a steam-train overtaking - or not really ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrcyADZzDKQK1 Flootplate ride NYMR 950th video 04-10-19Very clean engine with brass polished, outside polished glossy black lacquer with decent red lining - very nice, not overdone, still earnestly enough for a steam locomotive, sound valve gear, slight twisting. Only, I wished she had a 'proper' tender (eight wheels bogies tender)! Nice windows with rounding of upper corners - this is really a preserved steam locomotive! Only the clanking they didn't quite get out of the rods. Firehole positioned damned low - poor fireman's backbone! Boiler before cab to look down on!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYNd8IzGZlMGrosmont to Pickering Route Learning on the NYMR (North Yorkshire Moors Railway)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYNd8IzGZlMGrosmont to Pickering Route Learning on the NYMR (North Yorkshire Moors Railway)
Those deeply forested hillsides, the sweeping railway line with its little bridges and its undulating profile, track well maintained with niceky orderly rail joints clicking; the park-like country with its both closed-in and wide-open scenery and its general freeness, somewhat stern, somewhat earnest, with the changing light and the wind blowing ... nice fitting deep steam whistle, although somewhat uni-tone, valve gear not quite regular, the clicking noise at around 50:30 and on I hope is from the idler valves. They have nice station buildings and the typically British pedestrians bridges over the tracks. They have lots of running material!Interesting, the notes about incline and the names of mileposts and bridges. Very cautious starting away to avoid slipping around 53:00 and on. It would be great to run this line with a 52-80 class Decapod, she would also be fitting the scenery perfectly!
Have fun!
Juniatha
Firelock,
you said "This stuff is so cool, I love Decapods!"
Decapods - !?
Oh, yes its a cool w/a - it's not for nothing I quite like the 50 / 52 / 52-80 classes.
Deca=ten
pods=feet
The proper term for more than one octopus is not octopi, it's octopods. Eight feet. Another one is the latin term for seals and sea lions- Pinnae peds= winged feet. did I major in Latin? Ooyay etbay
Decapod's a very musical name too.
"Decca-pod, decca-pod, decca-decca pod-pod!"
Life's not worth a damn if I can't get a little goofy every now and then.
54light15The proper term for more than one octopus is not octopi, it's octopods.
Another one is the latin term for seals and sea lions- Pinnae peds= winged feet.
Did I major in Latin?
Incidentally THIS is the Decapod:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/GER_Decapod.jpg
Designed for acceleration competitive with contemporary electric suburban stock -- could do it, too.
Note cab behind Wootten firebox
Yes, I mean spelled like that. Minime-
Flintlock76Decapod's a very musical name too. "Decca-pod, decca-pod, decca-decca pod-pod!"
OvermodFits right into the chorus of Ca Ira, too! We can have appropriately bloodthirsty lyrics for what will happen to diseasel fans...
Ca Ira? Sing it Edith baby! And no regrets either!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9VoRmjxvPs
Almost right out of The Music Man, Flintlock76!
Gotta know the territory!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ9U4Cbb4wg
kgbw49 "It is almost hard to comprehend those 60-inch five-coupled drivers cranked up to 90 mph. That would have been something to see!"
At over 500 rpm you don't see much of the rods, they are just a blur. Well, the Brits always carried things to their utmost limits, close to a catastrophic casualty! 90 mph was the record of the record runs, while it lasted it sure was an event! However, in the loco profile on BR class 9, it is noted the shed master tried to contain express runs for the fast running "did nothing to keep the engines out of the shops"
Any more lengthy extension of this reckless fast running would surely have ripped lose the main rod and could have resulted in a fantastic derailing of the engine - at that speed! How? Well, simply if the unleashed main rod would burry its front end into the ballast and lever up the main axle and engine! All in all, not an edifying feat, it was simply triggered by the very smooth and free running of class 9, unimpaired from reciprocating movements by oscillating masses of rods, which in itself was an achievement of design.
The class 9 was a neat and harmonious-looking and technically well balanced design of a locomotive - except for those steeply angled cylinders (needed for loading gauge restrictions) and the 'coal lorry', the poor simple six wheels stiff frame tender (in Britain, the continental European universal 'standard' eight wheels double bogie tender has always been detested and by BR times was I think even made illegal for larger engines than with ten wheels).Vaya con Dios!
kgbw49 Almost right out of The Music Man, Flintlock76! Gotta know the territory! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ9U4Cbb4wg
Classic bit from "The Music Man!"
Now just think, on the Broadway stage they had to do it with NO cuts!
By the way, anyone notice that outside-frame locomotive? I wonder where they shot that?
Juniatha 90 mph was the record of the record runs, while it lasted it sure was an event! However, in the loco profile on BR class 9, it is noted the shed master tried to contain express runs for the fast running "did nothing to keep the engines out of the shops"
Right you are Juniatha! Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Flintlock
Yessssh-ssh-ssh-ssh ... tchwooooth!
=J=
I think the outside frame steam locomotive might be Oahu Railway & Land Company 85, which was on the mainland for a time as evidenced by this picture with a Sante Fe passenger car in the background. Perhaps at the Orange Empire Railway Museum? Or maybe Travel Town at Griffith Park?
https://www.steamlocomotive.info/largeimage.cfm?which=393
Another steam locomotive from an island across the pond, but in the other direction!
That's the smokebox and stack from #85 but not the drive.
We had a thread on this clip a few years ago that identified the specific locomotive class.
kgbw49 I think the outside frame steam locomotive might be Oahu Railway & Land Company 85, which was on the mainland for a time as evidenced by this picture with a Sante Fe passenger car in the background. Perhaps at the Orange Empire Railway Museum? Or maybe Travel Town at Griffith Park?
Definitely not OERM, but Travel Town is a possibility.
Meanwhile, back on topic, the P2 crew has posted some impressive updates of progress over the last several months:
https://www.p2steam.com/category/news/
54light15 Deca=ten pods=feet The proper term for more than one octopus is not octopi, it's octopods. Eight feet. Another one is the latin term for seals and sea lions- Pinnae peds= winged feet. did I major in Latin? Ooyay etbay
No-no-no
The caption said 2-8-2, this is a Mikado (in the finer sense:
if drive rods go to the third coupled axle, says Juní)
Flintlock wrote about a Decapod, this is a 2-10-0!
Deca in Vienna is 100 grams of -- cheese or whatever
Pod or better: Pot is a tea or coffee jug or: -pot-
So in your language, a 2-10-0 is 100 g of tea or coffee from the pot?
I never tried tea from the boiler of a Decapod, but I doubt if it is very healthy:
they have some chemical water treatment that is only good for steam locos?
Sara TI never tried tea from the boiler of a Decapod, but I doubt if it is very healthy:
Thoroughly boiled, there's certainly no germs in it!
On the other hand the water treatment chemicals would certainly spoil the taste of the tea!
Hello everybody
The pictures made me think it looks like an early tin model, not like a real locomotive. All these polished surfaces and the simplified shapes with lots of details hidden (same as 'not there'), the thin rods, the disproportional 'upright form of the front and rear in contrast to the spread out center .. and the simple goods car of a tender with the axles simply in the square frame, no curve fitting bogie, and the simple rectangular form without distinguished water and coal sections.
To me, this is not a 'race horse' nor a proper locomotive at all.
I don't want to step on anyone's shoes, sorry if it sounds like it. It is only my personal opinion, that's all.
Be kind,
never mind
and some relaxing sound of summer (we all want it, we all look for it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bX10UON-Hg
Flintlock76On the other hand the water treatment chemicals would certainly spoil the taste of the tea!
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