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Erie N-2 Mikado 3213
Posted by NKP guy on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 2:52 PM

Can anyone here supply a photo of Erie 3213?  This is the Mikado from which our historical society has recently obtained the bell (referred to in another thread earlier). 

We would like photos of the 3213, but we could also use a photo or two of any N-2 Mikado which shows the placement of the bell well.

I appeal to you gentlemen; can anyone post here such a photo or photos?

I'm most appreciative.

 

 

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Posted by NKP guy on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 2:53 PM

Question I failed to ask earlier:   Who was the builder of the 3213?   What year?

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Posted by ACY Tom on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 3:41 PM

I don't have a photo, but can supply the following information:

Erie class N-2 Mikados were USRA Heavy 2-8-2's built by Alco (Brooks) in 1918.  There were 15 locos in the class, numbers 3200-3214.  Over their careers, these engines saw very few modifications, but Elesco Feedwater heaters were installed on 3200-3207, and Worthington Feedwater heaters were installed on 3208-3214.  Coal capacity of many N-2 tenders was increased, and some N-2's received larger tenders in later years. 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 6:44 PM

Maybe these folks can help you:

The Erie-Lackawanna Historical Society   www.erielackhs.org

 

Good luck!

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Posted by NKP guy on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 7:49 PM

Thanks for your good wishes, Firelock 76.  

I found one useful photo by simply Googling for it, but I'm sorry to say the ELHS website, at least as it's currently constructed, was surprisingly of no help in my query.  No matter how I searched, I came up with nada, yet I could find someting useful on the Internet at large; but not the logical historical society.  Also, ACY, I found your info very helpful.  Thanks.

This is meant as an observation, not a criticism.

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Posted by M636C on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 8:21 PM

Model Railroader Cyclopedia Volume 1 (Steam) has drawings of the USRA Heavy Mikado but no photos of the Erie locomotives.

However, the photos show the bell mounting in many of the photos as well as in the drawings, and (except for the Milwaukee units) in no case on the many locomotives of different roads does the bell mounting appear to have been changed.

The leading photo shows Milwaukee Road 8693 as delivered with USRA lettering and shows the bell mounting as delivered. Since these are "standard" locomotives, the fittings should be exactly the same on Erie locomotives.

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, August 5, 2015 9:09 PM
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Posted by ACY Tom on Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:46 AM

Very interestng photo.  It shows that we have to be careful believing printed information.  The engine has an Elesco heater, rather than the Worthington that I mentioned; and the air pump has been moved to the pilot deck.  Now I wonder where and when that photo was taken, and whether the engine's appearance might have been different at some other time. 

Live and learn.

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Posted by NKP guy on Thursday, August 6, 2015 12:32 PM

selector:   All of us at the historical society are certainly in your debt for this killer photo of engine 3213.  It is as good a photo as one could hope for...and look! There's our bell!

Many thanks. 

This is the kind of help that makes it a real pleasure to belong to this forum.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, August 6, 2015 5:22 PM

Selector, that website you referenced looks very interesting, I'll have to check it out.

Thanks for posting it!

And NKP guy, no problem, I didn't take it as critisism.  Sorry I couldn't be more help to you.  I'll have to dissect that E-L website, I knew it existed but have never really delved into it.

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Posted by selector on Thursday, August 6, 2015 11:46 PM

I am very happy to have helped, NKP Guy.  I learned about fallenflags.org myself on the Model Railroader magazine forum a few years ago, and have referred to it many times myself.

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:27 PM

Fallenflags is an excellent resource that I use pretty often. If you appreciate it, be sure to donate as the owner refuses to put in advertising and has had some near scares regarding keeping the site up in the past.

Northeastrails is another good source.

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