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NYC 4-8-2 #3001 Mohawk

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:04 AM

RME
 
CSSHEGEWISCH
The intern may be passionate about restoring steam locomotives, but his passion seems to stop at his checkbook.

 

How would you possibly know?

Or are you saying that he should personally bankroll a huge chunk of the putative 3001 restoration cost, or else shut up about it?  That would seem to be more than a little ridiculous.

 

It's just that the intern pontificates so much about this, that and the other steam locomotive that should be restored to no less than operating condition that makes it hard for me to believe that he's actually doing anything about any of them.  His insistence on complete historical accuracy in the restoration of the "Flying Yankee" to operating condition (he insisted that the organization was wrong in installing a 6-567 engine instead of restoring a 201-A) suggests that he has a lot to say without actually doing anything.

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Posted by Dr D on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:03 PM

During a recent visit to Elkhart, Indiana, it seems some more work is beginning done on NYC 3001 - the circular sheet metal guard for the safety valves atop the boiler is now partially removed or installed, and the turret cover in front of the cab on the left side has its upper panel opened up.  It also seems the smoke box throttle opening is now covered.  Nice to see some work on the locomotive.

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It occured to me in the re-reading of some of this thread that the City of Elkhart, Mayor Dick Moore had one main objection to the restoration of NYC 3001 - his main objection to the restoration and operation of the locomotive was that if it was moved from the city location of its display to a place of restoration - that there would be a revenue loss to the city of ticket sales by visitors to the city owned National New York Central Museum.  That the city income loss would be substancial. 

Other than this revenue line item, I am not sure he really cared how long the locomotive was away from town for a return to operational condition.  I believe a bid was submitted by the Milwaukee 261 restoration group.

It occured to me that if The New York Central Railroad Museum and the Lakeshore Railroad Historical Foundation were to approach The Museum Of Transportation in St. Louis, Missouri about the loan of the one other remaining New York Central 4-8-2 Mohawk NYC 2933 and if this engine were brought to display in Elkhart, the two engines together, well the NYC 3001 could be removed and restored off site by either the Lakeshore Railroad Historical Foundation or one of the several restoration groups that have offered this service to the city.

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Further, if this were to happen, the NYC 3001 could be used to pull excursions in both Elkhart and at St Louis for the benefit of both museums in consideration for the original loan of NYC 2933 to Elkhart. 

It could also be a likely option that the second NYC engine could be restored by the group capable of performing the first restoration.

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Having the two engines on location in one place would also allow extensive reference of the one locomotive to the other for historic restoration purposes.   Both NYC 3001 and NYC 2933 are almost identical 4-8-2 locomotives and were used thru Elkhart, Indiana on the Chicago - New York mainline. 

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The St. Louis Museum Of Transportation has performed a similar locomotive loan of Norfolk & Western 2156 Y-6 to The Virginia Museum Of Transportation for a period of 5 years.

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Just some thoughts here -

Doc 

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Posted by LUKE SOLBERG on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:47 AM

Well it be worth a try.

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