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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:45 AM

Go ahead and organize a tour.   Israel is worth visiting from a railfan prospective alone, with the line from Tel Aviv via Lod to the Malcha area of Jerusalem (far from downtown unfortunately) particularly scenic.   Lots of EMD road switchers on freight, and double-end European diesels with EMD prime movers on passenger, plus Danish diesel-mechanical Flexiliner mu's.  And Jerusalem's Alstom Civitis equipped scenic light rail line, and the Haifa underground funicular six station two train subway.   Then go to Jordan and charter a steam train.   Or two.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:01 PM

Dave, I'm sure you're going to give a tremendous lecture.  I'll bet eveyone reading your post is secretly wishing he could be there.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:26 PM

Problem solved now.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 2:01 PM

All interesting material but not what I need.    The Israel Railways site itself gives a good selection of steam operation in the Mandate and Turkish eras, and then jumps to current operations.   The websites here are all current.   The trains I am referring to operated as self-propelled, as designed, only 1956-1967/   In 1967, a whole bunch of Yugoslavian-buitl standard European type steel coaches arrived.   These were locally equipped with the same Sutrak air-conditioners used on buses, except two instead of one.   The German diesel-mechanical trains were not air-conditioned.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 12:27 PM

[quote user="daveklepper"]

"...I am scheduled to give a talk on the history of Israel's railroads, and cannot locate the slides I took in 1960 of the four or five car diesel-mechical trains that  were introduced about 1957 or 1958.   By 1966 they were being pulled by EMD road-swichers, and by 1970 were out of service.   Only the front and rear trucks were powered, with a diesel at each end through a mechanical transmission involving gear shifting (don't remember if this was automatic or under operator control, probably both available).   They could mu, and I did ride with two coupled trains coupled together.

I tried finding a similar unit's picture on Germain Railways' websites, but so far no luck.   Anybody have pictures or suggestions?.."

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Dave:

         Admitttedly, these are not the pictures of the time you requested, but on this website there are about 16 pages of Israeli Railway Equipment. Maybe, in that you may be able to locate the kinds of equipment you are looking for?

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=259615  a set from 2008, diesel hauled bt EMD.

Or this Bombardier from 2003:

:http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=39825&nseq=229

Or this linked locomotive from the Israel Rwy Museum:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=88737

The photos on this lik may also be of interest to you(?)

http://www.railroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8587

This photo library might be worth exploring ( it is a collection in the Library of Congress)

http://www.israeldailypicture.com/2011/07/picture-day-jerusalems-light-rail-train.html

Or here: http://www.rail.co.il/EN/Fun/Museum/Pages/gallery.aspx

One last, a compilation of photos of Israel from Flickr:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/israelrailways/interesting/

Hope you can find some useful info from the above links.

 

 

 


 

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German diesel mechanical 1958 passenger train
Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 9:18 AM

I am scheduled to give a talk on the history of Israel's railroads, and cannot locate the slides I took in 1960 of the four or five car diesel-mechical trains that  were introduced about 1957 or 1958.   By 1966 they were being pulled by EMD road-swichers, and by 1970 were out of service.   Only the front and rear trucks were powered, with a diesel at each end through a mechanical transmission involving gear shifting (don't remember if this was automatic or under operator control, probably both available).   They could mu, and I did ride with two coupled trains coupled together.

I tried finding a similar unit's picture on Germain Railways' websites, but so far no luck.   Anybody have pictures or suggestions?

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