CP 2816

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:26 PM

any times listed?

(sorry if me constantly asking this gets annoying. but you guys know how screwed i am in where i fan and moments like these dont always come. so i gotta be sure i can get this one for sure)

cuz i dont know how long it takes for a train to get from lacrosse to wabasha 

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, September 14, 2007 2:02 PM
 Lord Atmo wrote:

any times listed?

(sorry if me constantly asking this gets annoying. but you guys know how screwed i am in where i fan and moments like these dont always come. so i gotta be sure i can get this one for sure)

cuz i dont know how long it takes for a train to get from lacrosse to wabasha 

Well it's pretty annoying being a ticketholder and not knowing!! My wife keeps asking when we're getting back tomorrow and I can only guess.

(I can't tell her too much as it's a surprise. She knows we're doing something tomorrow for our anniversary, but not exactly what it is.)

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Posted by Noah Hofrichter on Friday, September 14, 2007 5:39 PM

Only times I've seen for sure is a 8:30am departure from St. Paul. Supposedly they are saying about 8PM back into the cities too, but some people on the group speculate it'll be more like 5-6PM. I don't know which'll be right.

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Sunday, September 16, 2007 8:10 AM

it matters not. for i was successful!

the empress is a very lovely lady indeed. pulling the train, but she didnt do any talking. but then again 261 had the mighty whistle. and he used it a LOT! also note the lack of a genesis behind them at last! seems they finally used a power car instead! nice that they made it look like a classic boxcar!

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Posted by CP5415 on Sunday, September 16, 2007 8:18 AM

Canadian Pacific has always had the two boxcars behind the D&H tender, not sure why they wouldn't have used it before in the US. I beleive that one is a tool car & the other is the power generator for the passenger cars.

Did CP have it's own passenger cars in the consist?

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Posted by Lord Atmo on Sunday, September 16, 2007 8:37 AM

the train consisted of CP's trainset and then MILW's. yes both were present. this was a very long train. and each car was jam packed. everyone was waving to us too. it's an experience i will never forget!

i'm also not sure why the previous doubleheader back in 2004 had 2 P42s behind the steamers instead of that power car either. but i'm glad that wasnt the case this time. because the train had a very classic look. old and new in different trains (a CP ES44AC was leading a prior road freight before this train showed up)

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Posted by CP5415 on Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:18 AM

The first time 2816 came east to Ontario, she was suppose to make a stop in Oshawa, where I was living at the time.

CP had the stop posted on the website then changed their minds.

I was hoping to be able to see it up close. Man was I bummed out.

She was going to make a few stop then pull an excursion from Toronto to Guelph Junction using GO transit coaches.

Had little chance of getting on that as the demand would have been too great

Another train freak that I was working with at the time managed to get him & I on the excursion out of Toronto's Union Station, not on the GO coaches, but on CP's coaches.

I was doing cartwheels for a week. Got an hour long video of the trip from the vestibule.

The next year, 2816 came back to town on the cross country run pulling a string of passanger cars.

One of the guys in the same dealership I was still at, asked me if I wanted to see 2816 up close.

I said HUH?

His brother-in-law was working for CP (in charge of CP's eastern division I think) & gave me permission to be in CP's Agincourt Yard when she came back from Montreal.

I never asked to, but they allowed me up into the cab just after they tied her up for the night.

Still have pleasant memories from that railfan trip.

Gordon

  

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Posted by dknelson on Sunday, September 16, 2007 9:45 PM

Keith Schmidt has posted some wonderful shots of the double header elsewhere on the Forum

 http://www.trains.com/trccs/forums/1218263/ShowPost.aspx

 

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, September 17, 2007 1:37 PM
BTW the boxcar right behind the engines being used as a toolcar by 2618 was pretty neat in and of itself; a 10' height steel boxcar built in 1936. It would have been one of the first all-steel cars built to that height.
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Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:57 AM

 wjstix wrote:
BTW the boxcar right behind the engines being used as a toolcar by 2618 was pretty neat in and of itself; a 10' height steel boxcar built in 1936. It would have been one of the first all-steel cars built to that height.

And it has a wood roofwalk, a good chance for modern day railfans to see what was becoming rare when I started noticing trains.  Just imagine running on wet wood back in the days when brakemen had to set the brakes. 

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:47 AM
 dknelson wrote:

 wjstix wrote:
BTW the boxcar right behind the engines being used as a toolcar by 2618 was pretty neat in and of itself; a 10' height steel boxcar built in 1936. It would have been one of the first all-steel cars built to that height.

And it has a wood roofwalk, a good chance for modern day railfans to see what was becoming rare when I started noticing trains.  Just imagine running on wet wood back in the days when brakemen had to set the brakes. 

Dave Nelson

Don't forget the layer of slippery coal dust on the wet roofwalk too!!

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Posted by Dakguy201 on Saturday, September 22, 2007 3:21 AM

2816 is a beautiful machine.  This is from LaCrosse:

 

 

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