Savannah and Atlanta Mountain Locomotives

[Atlanta Railfan]

Does anyone have any photos of the Savannah and Atlanta 4-8-2 locomotives that were purchased from the NY O & W in the late 1940s?  I read that some of the NY O &W 4-8-2 locomotives were given Vanderbilt tenders from their 2-10-2 locomotives as those locomotives were retired but I have only found 2 photos of the 4-8-2 locomotives in S&A lettering and both of those photos showed only the rectangular tenders.

Thank You

[seppburgh2]

Give a try at Ebay. Recall seeing these 4-8-2's photos come up for sale. Look up O&W and Savanna and Atlanta. Good luck.

[Atlanta Railfan]

Thank you

[Flintlock76]

I checked one of my books concerning the NYO&W, and from what I see none of the "Old and Weary's" steamers had Vanderbilt tenders, even the 2-10-2's which the O&W crews called "Bullmooses."  

It looks like the O&W's 4-8-2's went south with conventional tenders.

Some, but not all, of the Erie's 2-10-2's had Vanderbilt tenders. 

[kgbw49]

http://hawkinsrails.net/shortlines/sa/sa.htm

If you scroll down at that link you'll see a picture of S&A 4-8-2 445 with a tank car as a water canteen or auxiliary tender, with everything as neat and clean as an Augusta fairway at The Masters.

Perhaps the canteen was mistaken by some to be a Vanderbilt tender?

Here is a slightly different view of the same locomotive.

http://rlhs.org/Chapters/msc/ardrey/RSA445_1.html

[Flintlock76]

I see what you mean, anyone giving a cursory look to that picture might assume they're looking at a Vandy tender. 

[BEAUSABRE]

"The original Mountains had short tenders. The photo of 403 below shows it with the tender of an ex X class 2-10-2 locomotive. The 2-10-2s were scrapped because they were hard to maintain and hard to run -- they required two firemen. Instead of getting rid of the 2-10-2 tenders, the mountain type inherited the X's tenders and the mountain tenders went to a number of W class 2-8-0 locomotives. The 2-8-0s were remodeled with air pumps and many other things and were called W-2 class locomotives." A view of NYO&W 2-10-2 gives you some idea of the tender https://www.steamlocomotive.com/whyte/2-10-2/USA/photos/nyow353-unknown.jpg https://www.steamlocomotive.com/whyte/2-10-2/USA/photos/nyow353-unknown.jpg

[Flintlock76]

https://www.steamlocomotive.com/whyte/2-10-2/USA/photos/nyow353-unknown.jpg  

I lit that up for you.

BEAUSABRE

The 2-10-2s were scrapped because they were hard to maintain and hard to run -- they required two firemen.

In addition to "Bullmooses" the NYO&W old-timers also called them "Mankillers," not because they were deathtraps, but because of the aformentioned reason.  They were slow as molasses in January as well.