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Posted by Firelock76 on Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:55 PM

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We can talk about Bigfoot if you want to.

New Jersey's got one of them too, "The Big Red Eye" of Sussex County!

 Unless you have your very own video or picture that's not blurr,,, I'd say no. I've seen many of the credible videos out there already. 

 

 

 

Ah, there's the rub, just like Bigfoot a lot of the sightings of The Big Red Eye might be a lot more credible if the observer hadn't had six beers in him.  Or her.

Then again, there's a lot of crazy stuff in NJ I've heard of recently that I NEVER heard of while I lived there, like the midget albino cannibals that lived under the George Washington Bridge!   Or the "Gates of Hell" being in the Clifton sewer system!

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Posted by 54light15 on Friday, June 9, 2017 9:40 AM

Getting back to the honorable subject of cheese steaks, when my ship was in the yards in Philly in 1975, I shared an apartment with a guy in Runnymede, New Jersey. The best, I mean thee best cheese steaks were at Marino's on Black Horse Pike in Runnymede. I saw them put a huge sirloin on a slicer, that thing had to be two feet long and the slicer cut it as thin as bum wad. Man that was good! 

Two years ago I was at the classic car meet in Hershey and there were vendor booths selling cheese steaks. I asked the guy what cheese they used and he almost got angry, saying, "Cheeze Whiz" I told him that back in the 1970s everyone used Provolone. He didn't believe me. I set him straight and he agreed that Provolone sounded good. 

There was a cheese steak place on Broad Street under the approach to the Walt Whitman bridge run by an ex-Marine and his were pretty fine too. Getting hungry now. 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, June 9, 2017 6:55 PM

54light, it's a small world indeed!  While you were in Runnymede in 1975 I was just down the road a bit in Glassboro attending the college of the same name.  Best cheesesteaks down that way came from the Cavalier Sub Shop.  Since Lady Firestorm can't abide cheese on her steak sandwiches and I detest onions we'd have all the cheese that would go on her's go on mine, and all the onions that would go on mine go on hers, she loves those vile vegetables.

There was another place we'd go called Tarantella's, no so much for the cheesesteaks but for a tuna hoagie for her and a 12" pizza for me.

Forty plus years ago, both probably gone by now.  We drove though Glassboro about five or so years ago and couldn't recognize the place, so many changes.  Some of the happiest times of my life were spent there, but now I know what a ghost must feel like.  We won't be going back.

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Posted by 54light15 on Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:05 AM

I was last at Marino's in 1994 when I drove to Florida with my now ex brother in law so it may still exist. It was the kind of place that's been there forever because the food is so good. Glassboro? Isn't Lakehurst near there? Oh , the humanity! 

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Posted by erikem on Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:27 AM

Getting back on topic, the station in Walpole sort of qualifies for this topic, though the station was by the diamond with three of the four quadrants having connecting tracks.

This station is the subject of an article in the September 1967 MR.

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:39 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glassboro_Summit_Conference

Excerpt from transcript of interview of Robert S. McNamara by Walt W. Rostow

http://www.lbjlibrary.net/assets/documents/archives/oral_histories/mcnamara_r/McNamara1.PDF

McNamara: It wasn't long after Dobrynin returned to Moscow that we learned that Kosygin was coming to the U.S., to the U.N. Many of us hoped that he and the President would meet together. The President--I think perhaps properly, but certainly to my disappointment--said: "Well, by God, if Kosygin wanted to meet with him, the President was available in Washington and Kosygin could come down from the U.N. to Washington and meet with him." And Kosygin was essentially taking the same attitude: "By God, he was coming to the United Nations as the United Nations and he wasn't coming to the U.S; and the fact that the U.N. was in the U.S. was coincidental; and if the President wanted to talk to him, he could come up to the United Nations and talk to him." There seemed to be no way in which we could get these two men together.

One night, late in the day, six or seven o'clock in the evening, the President called me and said, "Bob, what are you doing about Glassboro?" And I said "Glassboro where, Mr. President?" I had never heard of it. "What do you mean?" And he said, "You're in charge of this, what have you done?" And I said, "In charge of what?" He said, "You're in charge of it. You've been pushing me for a long time to meet with Kosygin. By God, I'm going to meet with him and you haven't made any preparations for it." Well, I said, "What do you mean? I don't know a thing about it." Well, he said, "I'm going to meet him in Glassboro and you better darn well get the place fixed up." And I said, "Mr. President, where is Glassboro?" And he said, "It's in New Jersey." I should have guessed that because if you take a compass and put one prong in New York and draw an arc and then turn around and put the prong on Washington and draw an arc, the two arcs would intersect at Glassboro.

Rostow: Governor Hughes found it for him.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, June 10, 2017 3:07 PM

Has Selma , NC been mentioned.  Technically it is where NS (SOU RR) crosses CSX (ACL) . But Amtrak splits with Palmetto and Meteor going south on ACL and Star and Carolinian going WNW on SOU.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, June 10, 2017 4:35 PM

Thanks Wanswheel, that was interesting.  Everyone who went to Glassboro State College when I was there knew about the summit meeting, but that happened four years before we got there.

"Where's Glassboro?"  Reminds me of the college's unofficial motto:

"We never heard of you either!" 

And 54light, G-boro's nowhere near Lakehurst, Lakehurst is over by the shore, not the Delaware, Jersey Central country.  Glassboro used to be served by a branch of the Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Line.

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Posted by 54light15 on Sunday, June 11, 2017 5:24 PM

Firelock, I stand corrected. Does the term for someone from south NJ still "Piney?" That term is used several times in the superb HBO series "Boardwalk Empire." 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, June 11, 2017 6:13 PM

The term "Piney" refers to the residents of an area in south Jersey called "The Pine Barrens."  The name goes back to colonial times when the first settlers found the area almost useless for conventional farming due to the sandy soil.  The area is thickly wooded with what's locally called "scrub pines," somewhat stunted local versions of loblolly pines, and in actual fact the "Barren's are pretty botanically diverse.  The "Barrens" are quite large, covering almost 25% of New Jersey's land mass, and up to recently have defied development being just a little too far from New York and just a little too far from Philadelphia.

A "Piney" is to New Jerseyans what "Hillbilly" is to residents of the American south.  You have to be from the "Pine Barrens" to be a Piney.  Residents of Jersey's Atlantic coast and from along the Delaware will be highly insulted if you call them "Pineys," as a matter of fact I don't think the Pineys are too crazy about the name either.

Lakehurst Naval Air Station is right on the northeastern edge of the Pine Barrens, close to the towns of Toms River and Lakewood.

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Posted by 54light15 on Sunday, June 11, 2017 6:58 PM

I assume you've seen the Sopranos episode called, "The Pine Barrens," directed by Steve Buscemi? it was sure one of the better episodes of a great series. 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, June 11, 2017 7:57 PM

No, I missed that one, not being an HBO subscriber.  I have seen some "Sopranos" episodes on A&E, and clips on You Tube, such as the one where Bobby Baccala got wacked in "Trainland" in Lynnbrook LI, NY.

Bobbys O gauge layouts and the one he flattened after gettin perforated survive today in the collections of the New Jersey High Railers train club in Paterson NJ.  I think you can see them on their website.

www.njhirailers.com

The Pine Barrens are reputedly a favorite body disposal site for mob rub-outs, considering the sparse population and (for New Jersey) remote locations.

 

 

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Posted by 54light15 on Monday, June 12, 2017 9:01 AM

That was in Trainland? I had no clue. I bought my first N gauge set there when it was called "House of Mulraney" in 1967. Still have the locomotive and it still runs. Man, the scene of him getting whacked was a classic! 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Monday, June 12, 2017 6:19 PM

That was Trainland all right!  The producer of the show is an O gauge fanatic, and when he wanted to film Bobby's demise he had a choice, reproduce a train store in a studio or go for the real thing.  He went for the real thing.

The current owner of Trainland, Ken Bianco, was interviewed for a TM toy train video, and said the whole process was one of the most amazing things he'd ever seen.  Like a military operation and just as disciplined.  He said from what you saw on TV you'd never guess there were over 100 people there involved in the production.

The shot-up Lionel boxes are still there in Trainland and on display for all to enjoy, Ken won't sell them.

On the video he had a sign in the front window:  Bobby Baccala "Bought it" at Trainland!

I just remembered, Bobby's home layout and the one he landed on, plus it's back-up, were built at a train store called The Train Station in Mountain Lakes, NJ.

www.train-station.com

What the hell, while I'm at it here's the site for Trainworld/Trainland.

www.trainworld.com

 

 

 

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Posted by 54light15 on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:36 PM

Firelaock, thanks for the links. I think the Train Store took over from Madison Hardware as the northeast Lionel distributor. I was in Madison Hardware many years ago. There used to be so many fine train shops in Manhattan; America's Hobby Center on west 23rd street. My father shopped there in the 1940s for flying model airplane stuff. He told me that it was a small room with catalogs on all the counters. You told them what you wanted, and it would be dropped down from an upper floor in a bucket and there you were. The times I was in there, it wasn't much different but sadly no bucket. The Model Railroad Equipment Corp. on west 45th, now called The Red Caboose, was a total dungeon that seemed to be run by a crazy man. Not sure if they're still in business. And of course, the legendary Polks's on 5th avenue. A scene from "The Godfather" was filmed in front, when Sollozo had Tom Hagen get in his car to tell him that Vito Corleone had been shot.  

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Posted by Firelock76 on Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:48 PM

I went to Polk's several times when I was in high school, feeding my aircraft modeling habit don't ya know.

If I remember correctly, there were four floors, one for model airplanes flyable and static, one for trains, one for cars both slot and static, and one for everything else.  Quite a place, and enough to make your head swim.  Almost fifty years ago, hardly seems possible. 

Polk's was fun to visit, but Hiway Hobby House in Ramsey NJ was more convenient, about a half-hour from where I lived, so I spent most of my hobby dollars there.

I never made it to Madison Hardware, I wasn't into trains at the time so I never heard of it.  Modeling World War One aircraft was my bag back then.

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