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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, March 12, 2017 4:38 PM

Thanks for all those Erie shots kgb!  Nothin' weary about that Erie!

And thanks for sneaking in a shot of that Jersey Central "Hudson."  Steamtown's got a Canadian 4-6-4 tanker that's almost a dead-ringer for the CNJ one that's pictured, in fact I believe the Canadian 4-6-4 is what gave the CNJ the idea of getting some of their own.  I wish Steamtown would restore that 4-6-4T and slap some CNJ markings on it to go with the CNJ rolling stock they've got.

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Posted by pajrr on Monday, March 13, 2017 12:59 PM

Firelock, that was the very first locomotive that Steamtown operated. They had to stop operating it because the paperwork for it was destroyed in a roundhouse fire where the locomotive was stored in Canada. That would be a cool locomotive to see operate, especially if it were restored as a CNJ locomotive.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Monday, March 13, 2017 6:23 PM

Oh yeah, they could have had it torn down and inspected at the time, but with a full stable of papered locomotives it just wasn't worth Steamtown's trouble.

After a total resoration now it'd have all the papers it would need.  Restoring it as a CNJ locomotive would be playing a little fast and loose with it's history I know, (in case anyone asks) but so what?

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Posted by kgbw49 on Monday, March 13, 2017 7:01 PM

So this...

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Could do an interpretation of this...

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Sounds reasonable to me! It would be economical to operate, running it in reverse would be historically accurate, and given the fact that the biggest market in North America is a short distance to the east, it would seem to have a marketing advantage as a Central Railroad of New Jersey unit. Plus, how is that for a field trip for the schools in New York-New Jersey "Hey, students, we are going to take a ride just like the ride to work that your grandparents (great-grandparents?) did every day to bring home the bacon."

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Posted by Firelock76 on Monday, March 13, 2017 7:22 PM

There you go.  And those CNJ 4-6-4T's were powerful enough to pull up to 12 coaches.  Hard to believe but it's true.

Good for an easy five mile or so out-and-back and as you say economical to operate it'd be a good choice for a train full of people who want a short ride for a taste of steam as opposed to an all-day trip.

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Posted by kgbw49 on Monday, March 13, 2017 8:32 PM

Here is a crystal clear shot of CNJ 4-6-4T 230...

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CNJ 4-6-4T 228...

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CNJ 4-6-4T 226 on what looks to be a work train - evidence of robust pulling power...

CNJ 4-6-4T 226 in pristine condition ready to pull out on the advertised...

CNJ 4-6-4T 227 coupled to what looks to be commuter cars...

CNJ 4-6-4T 228 waiting for the high ball...

CNJ 4-6-4T 225 working from the business end...looks just right for Steamtown...

CNJ 2?? 4-6-4T from the front end again for comparison...looks just right for Steamtown...

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CNJ 4-6-4T 229 also in pristine condition and ready for its next assignment...

Finally, not 4-6-4Ts, but CNJ 2-8-2 Mikados with what has to be the most massive tender ever applied to a Mikado...

CNJ 2-8-2 Mikado 875 on the turntable with an enormous tender that has to be the longest if not the largest ever put on the drawbar of a Mikado...

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CNJ 2-8-2 Mikado 903 - Big-barreled, brawny bruiser of a 2-8-2...

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For comparison purposes, Boston & Albany 4-6-6T under way...

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Posted by Firelock76 on Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:53 PM

Tough lookin' engines, don't you think?  All business!  A pity none were saved.

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Posted by kgbw49 on Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:06 PM

Okay, I know this is a stretch, but here is a Berkshire (NKP 759) on the (Erie-) Lackawanna coming out of Nay Aug Tunnel near Scranton, PA...too good a photo to pass up...

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Posted by Firelock76 on Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:59 PM

Not too much of a stretch, it is on E-L trackage, and the 759 is kind of a "kissin' cousin" to the Erie Berks.  Nice shot at any rate.

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