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<p>[quote user="mudchicken"]</p> <p>Poor 3463 is gonna get butchered as a plaything for a gaggle of envirogeeks playing with other peoples money. What did it do to deserve this? Maybe BNSF ought to claim breach of donation agreement and reclaim the big fella.</p> <div style="clear:both;"></div> <p>[/quote]</p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">Yes, absolutely.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I think you have summed this up very well.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"></span>This proposal seems incredibly long on platitudinous rhetoric and short on substance.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The stated mission coupled with the implications suggest that this ATSF 4-6-4 will be very extensively modified.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>My interpretation is that it will require a new boiler, piping, jacketing, cylinders, valves, drivers, rods, and exhaust nozzle.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I suspect it will require a new throttle and extensive revision to the backhead controls.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It will require a new firing system for the pellets, and possibly a new feed water system.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And with all this cutting, welding, machining, and re-designing, there will be bound to be limitations and compromises imposed by the fact that this is a remodel rather than starting with a clean sheet of paper.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In fact, I find it hard to believe that it would not be cheaper to start with a clean sheet of paper than to hack up this antique locomotive and convert it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">Reply to some other comments about carbon neutral: Burning wood is considered to be carbon neutral whereas burning coal or oil, is not.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Coal and oil are considered to have their CO2 sequestered.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In other words, the CO2 is permanently locked up as long as you don’t burn them.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The CO2 in wood is not considered to be sequestered because the wood will rot in a small number of years and release all of its CO2 just as it will if you burn it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">However, the objective of being carbon neutral assumes a belief that CO2 is destroying the planet, and not everyone believes that.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">The torrefied biomass pellets that will be used to fire this carbon neutral locomotive must be manufactured in a plant.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I would like to see a cost analysis for this process.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However, since the objective is to be carbon neutral, I am not sure if there is an expectation that the fuel be less costly that coal or oil.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Carbon neutral can be a objective that requires a higher cost.</span></span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> I wonder if they will use bamboo flooring in the cab. </span></span> </span></span></p>
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