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UPRR #4014 To come back to life with UP's Steam Program !

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Posted by carnej1 on Friday, July 26, 2013 11:39 AM

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ahh thats nothing to  the union pacific track crew just a bunch of snap track & tie it into the main & they are good!!

its flat & dry , they will love that, no ponds ditchs or highways to cross.

IIRC, the move of Madame Queen (ATSF 5000) in Amarillo was done with panel track, including an impromptu turntable (track ends hauled sideways) to navigate a street corner.

The biggest problem here will probably be crowd control, even if they do most of the moving at 0-dark-00.

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There was (or is) a show on the History Channel called "Mega Movers" that had an episode about the moving of the "Madame Queen".

 Also featured in the Episode was the effort to move a T&NO (SP) 2-10-2 also located in Texas, in this case Houston. That engine was lifted onto a set of self propelled multi-wheel hydraulic dollies for it's relocation.

 

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Posted by Josta on Friday, July 26, 2013 8:08 PM

I wonder how long it took for these types of overhaul back in the '40s and '50s?

This just in from some museum members:  4014 will be moved by rail in October to UP's Colton facilities to have the bearings worked on, before being moved to Cheyenne.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, July 26, 2013 8:23 PM

In the old days a major overhaul of a steam locomotive usually took about a month, more or less depending on type. Mind you, this was possible because of a massive support mechanism that existed then but doesn't exist now. 

Hundreds of craftsmen, massive fully equipped shops, plenty of parts suppliers, and so on.  These things don't exist like they did years ago.  The work can still be done, but it just takes a lot longer now.

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Posted by eagle1030 on Saturday, July 27, 2013 6:32 PM

Just foaming here, but I can't wait until there's a shot of 844, 3985, and 4014 sitting side by side in the roundhouse.

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Posted by Deirius on Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:56 AM
Looking forward to completion of the restoration
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Posted by Boyd on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:34 PM

I hope someone will take some video of the restoration of this locomotive.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:01 PM

Boyd

I hope someone will take some video of the restoration of this locomotive.

You know, that's a very good idea!  You should contact Union Pacific recommending they do a documentary on 4014's rebuild, in the same manner that Norfolk-Southern did with 611 back in 1982.

Search you tube " 611 going home" if you'd like to see it.

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Posted by thomas81z on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:51 PM
Latest on it is,october move to the colton shop,
for bearing work then onward to cheyenne ;)
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Posted by Lehigh Valley 2089 on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:21 PM

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Latest on it is,october move to the colton shop,
for bearing work then onward to cheyenne ;)

This restoration has me excited. Nothing can compare to it.

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Posted by thomas81z on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:52 PM

Boyd

I hope someone will take some video of the restoration of this locomotive.

in this day of multimedia /social media, it will be covered everyway to sunday

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Posted by Boyd on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:28 PM

I wonder how much UP paid for it?

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:58 PM

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In the TRAINS Newswire date Dec 7, Pomona, Ca. :

   There is a story that the owners of Big Boy 4014 have been approached about a deal to get their previously donated Big Boy (in 1962)  back into the UP's Steam program. 

   It would take a major rebuild, certainly involving years to get her bacK into operations....If it did come to fruition!  A sort of 'Holy Grail' for rail buffs, all over the world... The Newswire story says all contacts are currently just preliminary.  What a thing to contemplate!  Bow

NOW another xchapter in this story is about to unfold: 

TRAINSNewswire  of this Date: October 22,2013 has this headline:

"Trains News Wire EXCLUSIVE: Crews preparing Big Boy No. 4014 for rolling test"

FTA:"...POMONA, Calif.– Union Pacific's Big Boy steam locomotive will take its first baby steps toward restoration the week of Oct. 28. The UP steam crew plans to roll the 600-ton locomotive and tender from its resting place of almost 52 years onto panel track to begin loosening up No. 4014 for its return to the main line. The move is tentatively scheduled for next week at the Los Angeles County Fairgrounds in Pomona..."

Further FTA:"...To begin its move to UP's steam shops in Cheyenne, Wyo., the No. 4014 will travel over panel track across a parking lot for about 5,000 feet to reach a live track for an expected nighttime move onto Metrolink. That move is expected to take place in November.

Once on live rails, the locomotive will travel to UP’s shop at West Colton, Calif., for inspection and public display. The engine’s 1,200-mile trip to Wyoming is expected to take place in daylight on a published schedule with display stop later this year..."


So it looks like a day that many have dreamed about is moving closer to actual reality. Thanks, to TRAINS for keeping us updated:

[ The article in the NEWSWIRE  notes that TRAINS will be on hand for part of the week of preparations and will have some interviews with Ed Dickins VP of The Heritage Steam Program at UPR. ]  also noted in the article: "...Trains subscribers will get full access to the interview and video of the preparations..."

 

 


 

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Posted by thomas81z on Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:57 AM
woe im sure youtube will be full of videos of the baby steps of this giant.. bet the colton shop is gonna be happy to see this beast lol
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Posted by samfp1943 on Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:20 PM

TRAINSNEWSWIRE of this date 10/24/2013 Has the following headline  [in part]

: " ....4014 wants to move..."

FTA:".."When we move it, it wants to move. We have to chain it down," Dickens says of the No. 4014. "Because it's a little bit down hill that way, as soon as you get it out of those little depressions it's made after sitting for 25 years, it's taking off on you. "Those roller bearings are just itching to move."

No. 4014's next anticipated move should come during the week of Oct. 28, when the UP steam crew connects several sections of 40-foot panel track and rolls the Big Boy backward. Dickens says the move will lift the locomotive higher off the ground so crews can crawl underneath the engine to work on it. No. 4014 currently sits on asphalt-encased track that was laid decades ago, leaving just inches between the locomotive and the ground..."

  The same article contains an exclusive, but brief, video of the interview

           with Ed Dickinson in front of 4014. 

So it looks like progress is being made and dates are being targeted.  Can't wait to see 4014 under way towards Colton's( Ca.) UP Shops, and then on towards a rebirth at Cheyenne. Big Smile

 

 


 

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Posted by thomas81z on Saturday, October 26, 2013 3:25 PM
soooo shes itching. to move :)
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Posted by BarstowRick on Friday, May 9, 2014 6:34 PM

She's home in Cheyenne, Wyoming, as of Thursday, May 8, 2014.

 

Anyone here got video?

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Posted by Boyd on Saturday, May 10, 2014 2:43 AM
Good to hear its home. It's a pain to try to find the end of this long thread on my IPhone 5c.

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