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SteamTown CPR 2317
Posted by Moonie on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 11:41 AM

Does anyone know when SteamTown's CPR Pacific 2317 received the replacement eight-wheeled tender? See page 31 of March '79 RAILFAN for a photo with her original 12-wheeled tender. Did Nelson pick up a few spare parts along the way while he was collecting? (There is still a spare CPR tender in the collection in Scranton).

Many thanks.

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Posted by CNCharlie on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 10:18 PM

The tender that the CPR used with the G3c Pacific had 4 wheel trucks not 6 so it would appear that they have put it back to prototype.

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Posted by cprted on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 12:00 AM

 Overwhelmingly the CPR G3s pulled 6 axle (12,000 gal I think) tenders. Some G3s and all the other Pacifics had 4 axle tenders.  As to 2317 specifically, I don't know if/when it received a tender swap.  CP kept many 10,000 gallon tenders in service as auxiliary tenders for cranes and rotary plows into the 70s.  Undoubtedly, some were picked up by museums and such when CP retired them (this is how CP 3716 came to have a 10,000 gallon tender).

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Posted by cx500 on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 1:23 PM

cprted

 Overwhelmingly the CPR G3s pulled 6 axle (12,000 gal I think) tenders. Some G3s and all the other Pacifics had 4 axle tenders.  As to 2317 specifically, I don't know if/when it received a tender swap.  CP kept many 10,000 gallon tenders in service as auxiliary tenders for cranes and rotary plows into the 70s.  Undoubtedly, some were picked up by museums and such when CP retired them (this is how CP 3716 came to have a 10,000 gallon tender).

 

Do you have solid evidence for believing that "Overwhelmingly the CPR G3s pulled 6 axle .. tenders."  They certainly did use them, but I think it depended very much on the assignment and territory.  As far as I knew both styles were common.  A fair number of the G3 pictures in Omer Lavallee's book show them with the smaller tender.  Locally the weighting may have been strongly one way or the other.

There are also pictures of the G4 Pacifics with both sizes of tender so more than the G3s used 6-axle tenders.  You may well be right about the other classes only having the smaller tender although frequently one finds an exception to every rule.  Tender swapping was regularly done to solve a specific need.

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Posted by CNCharlie on Wednesday, December 9, 2009 9:09 PM

I stand corrected.

I checked my books by Lawrence Stuckey and indeed the G3C's he photographed had the 6 wheel tender trucks. Mind you they were the only Pacifics he photographed that didn't have 4 wheel trucks.

His photos were all in the west.

CN Charlie

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