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Sorry Paul, have overlooked that line, my fault. BTW, is it true that the S-1 class number "6000" was derived from their expected boiler capacity of IHP? Did they really had so much output in service? In additon, as you credited the T1 speeds, probably any good 4-8-4 could do more than 120mph under feasible conditions. Please allow me to citite some corresponding comments I see at TV-Documentories from people they ride them : Doyle McCormick (SP 4449) : "It was built for a speed of 100mph at its max speed lies in the nerves of the engineer" Ross Rowland (C&O 614) : "Its top speed was/is 125mph" Steve Lee (UP 844) : "Nobody knows how fast they really were" Due to a moving, my "UP History In Cheyenne" is not near by, but there was an insteresting story about a runaway, I think caused by FEF 820. It was a terrible accident, some men lost their lives. The crew left the engine unattended next to Borie-tower and did not blocked it properly. It run downhill the 1,55% grade into Cheyenne and crashed into a switcher. Later inspections said, the speed of the impact could be as high as 135MPH, not mentioned that this could include the switchers speed but it really shows how free rolling these beasts were. What interests me, which classes of 4-8-4 were intentedly built for freight service? Can we have a list?   Kind Regards Lars
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