Athearn has recently come out with a model of the Union Pacific turbine locomotives in HO scale. Some of these locomotives come with an auxiliary tender that are modeled after converted 4-12-2 locomotive tenders. I am wondering if any of these tenders were ever used as auxiliary water tenders and if any of them still exist? Also I have read that they can carry up to 24,000 gallons from some sources and 22,000 gallons from others. What is the right number? Now just as a note. These are not the auxiliary water tenders being used by the 3985 Challenger or the 844 Northern. Those were auxiliary water tenders converted from older Challengers and Northerns. If anyone can help me with these questions that would be greatly appreciated.
I don't have any idea, but I might know who does. Try calling the Illinois Railroad Musem in Union Ill. For the life of me I can't find that brochure rrrrrrr!!! Anyway, If anyone else visiting this post has a brochure post the phone #. The musem has a UP Vernanda turbine with a aux. tender theay might have some answers. If I find that brochure I will edit this post with the # to call.
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bubbajustinI don't have any idea, but I might know who does. Try calling the Illinois Railroad Musem in Union Ill. For the life of me I can't find that brochure rrrrrrr!!! Anyway, If anyone else visiting this post has a brochure post the phone #. The musem has a UP Vernanda turbine with a aux. tender theay might have some answers. If I find that brochure I will edit this post with the # to call.
The number is 815.923.4000, or visit their web site and hit the "contact us" button.
There you go! contact them and they might have some specs
cbq9911a bubbajustin I don't have any idea, but I might know who does. Try calling the Illinois Railroad Musem in Union Ill. For the life of me I can't find that brochure rrrrrrr!!! Anyway, If anyone else visiting this post has a brochure post the phone #. The musem has a UP Vernanda turbine with a aux. tender theay might have some answers. If I find that brochure I will edit this post with the # to call. The number is 815.923.4000, or visit their web site and hit the "contact us" button.
bubbajustin I don't have any idea, but I might know who does. Try calling the Illinois Railroad Musem in Union Ill. For the life of me I can't find that brochure rrrrrrr!!! Anyway, If anyone else visiting this post has a brochure post the phone #. The musem has a UP Vernanda turbine with a aux. tender theay might have some answers. If I find that brochure I will edit this post with the # to call.
I saw that CB&Q unit at the museum. Does it operate on the UP. mainline or just on the electrafied line for the interurban's? I think that it's a EMD E-unit isn't it? Very stylish.
I have heard that the turbine tenders came from several classes of engines. The 9000's were one of them. The tenders behind the 8500 hp 'Big Blows' were different, in that they had the 'bevel' to avoid the direct exhaust of the turbine in the 'B' unit. There appears to be at least two variations of tenders used on the 'original' and 'veranda' turbines.
Jim
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ryzormachine Athearn has recently come out with a model of the Union Pacific turbine locomotives in HO scale. Some of these locomotives come with an auxiliary tender that are modeled after converted 4-12-2 locomotive tenders. I am wondering if any of these tenders were ever used as auxiliary water tenders and if any of them still exist? Also I have read that they can carry up to 24,000 gallons from some sources and 22,000 gallons from others. What is the right number? Now just as a note. These are not the auxiliary water tenders being used by the 3985 Challenger or the 844 Northern. Those were auxiliary water tenders converted from older Challengers and Northerns. If anyone can help me with these questions that would be greatly appreciated.
It seems you're asking more about the 4-12-2's tenders and their disposition, rather than the turbines' tenders. However, for what it's worth, Thos. R. Lee in his 1970's book Turbines Westward (AG Publishing, 2nd ed.) says that some of the fuel tenders for the 4,500 HP turbines were assembled from the tank portions of 2 of the 4-12-2's (9000's) tenders*, mounted back to back on the same frame. At the moment, I'm not recalling what the resulting fuel capacity was.
* These were the Vanderbilt-style tender, with a squared-off coal bunker in front and on top of a cylindrical rear for the water.
According to Lee, most of the rest of the turbine tenders were made from 800-series 4-8-4 tenders, with a couple of different modifications and configurations.
Hope this is helpful.
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