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Baldwin "Sharknose"
Posted by DeBenny on Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:43 PM
Where are the Baldwin Sharknose locomotives ?  The last one I saw was in Cadillac, Michigan, many years ago. . . .on the Michigan Northern. . . .still in D&H colors.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:11 PM
Once the Michigan Northern folded I believe the 2 ex D&H Sharks were bought by an induvidual. He stores them now in the U.P. (that's Upper Penninsula for you non MichigandersTongue [:P]) on the Escanaba & Lake Superior RR. There was talk of restoring them to operating condition, but nothing yet.
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Posted by 88Mikado on Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:16 PM
...Baldwin Sharknoses...in the Steam Locomotive forum?
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Friday, July 27, 2007 1:47 AM

 88Mikado wrote:
...Baldwin Sharknoses...in the Steam Locomotive forum?

Could the PRR T1 be called a Baldwin Sharknose ? Wink [;)]

BTW, it does say "Steam & Preservation".

They are both stored indoors, out of sight, and unserviceable, in Wells (?) Michigan. The E&LS does not reach Wells anymore. 

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Posted by vsmith on Friday, July 27, 2007 1:19 PM
 nanaimo73 wrote:

 88Mikado wrote:
...Baldwin Sharknoses...in the Steam Locomotive forum?

Could the PRR T1 be called a Baldwin Sharknose ? Wink [;)]

BTW, it does say "Steam & Preservation".

They are both stored indoors, out of sight, and unserviceable, in Wells (?) Michigan. The E&LS does not reach Wells anymore. 

Its Steam AND Preservation, not Steam Preservation...so talk of preserving a Shark is appropriate here, to me...

Be nice it get a couple of these running on an excursion train or some tourist line somewhere

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Posted by martin.knoepfel on Friday, July 27, 2007 4:47 PM
IIRC, the two baldwin-sharks are both "baby sharks" (4 axles) A-units. There were B-units, too. No "big sharks" (6 axles) have been preserved.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, July 27, 2007 6:22 PM
     I have an HO scale Sharknose locomotive that I picked up at a flea market.  It's painted(from the factory) in Southern Pacific Daylight colors.  It looks like........well, it looks really bad!Dead [xx(]

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:31 AM

 martin.knoepfel wrote:
  No "big sharks" (6 axles) have been preserved.

I can't find any mention of a 6 axel RF-16.

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Posted by feltonhill on Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:33 AM
PRR was the only buyer and had a fleet of them in passenger service, both A and B units.  They had A1A trucks similar to Alco PA's.  Last used  on NY&LB commuter trains.  Very impressive looking units.
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Posted by nanaimo73 on Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:50 AM

Ah-ha, they were called DR-6-4-2000. They are impressive looking.

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    Posted by SSW9389 on Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:57 AM

    My train club friend Henry McMahon shot this photo of a Pennsy passenger sharknose sometime between 1948 and 1951. He told me he switched to color film in 1951.

     

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    Posted by J. Edgar on Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:54 AM

     

     A former Michigan Northern Baldwin "Shark", 1205, has been off-loaded from the Chief Wawatam at St. Ignace.  It will be enroute shortly to the Escanaba & Lake Superior in Escanaba.  The Chief is being unloaded by the Soo Line.  April 3, 1979

     

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    Posted by Eddystone on Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:46 PM

    Here is a link to another forum with this discussion with some more info and history.

    http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14002&start=45

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    Posted by Snoq. Pass RR on Sunday, July 29, 2007 3:40 PM
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    Posted by TomDiehl on Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:59 PM
     nanaimo73 wrote:

     martin.knoepfel wrote:
      No "big sharks" (6 axles) have been preserved.

    I can't find any mention of a 6 axel RF-16.

    You won't find mention of a 6 axle RF-16 any more than a mention of a 6 axle GP-20. Most of Baldwin's streamlined passenger diesels were the "babyface" carbody. As mentioned above, the Pennsy was the only on to receive 6 axle shark nose units.

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    Posted by AlgomaCentralfan on Friday, August 3, 2007 12:29 AM
    Is there a way visit or view these locos?  I used to vacation in the U.P. alot with my family  as a child in the 1990s and have many train photos from there but did not know that these locos where there till this year.
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    Posted by TomDiehl on Friday, August 3, 2007 5:48 AM

     AlgomaCentralfan wrote:
    Is there a way visit or view these locos?  I used to vacation in the U.P. alot with my family  as a child in the 1990s and have many train photos from there but did not know that these locos where there till this year.

    From what I understand, thanks to some vandals removing collectable parts from these last-of-the-kind locomotives, they've been put out of sight, under lock and key, until other arrangements can be made. After that announcement a year or so ago, I've heard no news at all about these two units.

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    Posted by Andrew Falconer on Monday, August 6, 2007 9:52 PM
     J. Edgar wrote:

     

     A former Michigan Northern Baldwin "Shark", 1205, has been off-loaded from the Chief Wawatam at St. Ignace.  It will be enroute shortly to the Escanaba & Lake Superior in Escanaba.  The Chief is being unloaded by the Soo Line.  April 3, 1979

     

    Thanks to your photo I now have to resist the kneejerk reaction to order a D&H Baldwin Sharknose A-A Set and a SOO GP9 set both made by Williams Trains for operation on 3-Rail O Gauge Tracks.

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    Posted by J. Edgar on Tuesday, August 7, 2007 12:04 PM
     Andrew Falconer wrote:
     J. Edgar wrote:

     

     A former Michigan Northern Baldwin "Shark", 1205, has been off-loaded from the Chief Wawatam at St. Ignace.  It will be enroute shortly to the Escanaba & Lake Superior in Escanaba.  The Chief is being unloaded by the Soo Line.  April 3, 1979

     

    Thanks to your photo I now have to resist the kneejerk reaction to order a D&H Baldwin Sharknose A-A Set and a SOO GP9 set both made by Williams Trains for operation on 3-Rail O Gauge Tracks.

    Tongue [:P]

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    Posted by espeefoamer on Friday, August 24, 2007 7:34 PM
     nanaimo73 wrote:

     88Mikado wrote:
    ...Baldwin Sharknoses...in the Steam Locomotive forum?

    Could the PRR T1 be called a Baldwin Sharknose ? Wink [;)]

    BTW, it does say "Steam & Preservation".

    They are both stored indoors, out of sight, and unserviceable, in Wells (?) Michigan. The E&LS does not reach Wells anymore. 

    The PRR T1s were built the Pennsy's Altoona shops,not by baldwin.They were sharknose units,but not Baldwin Sharks.

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    Posted by feltonhill on Friday, August 24, 2007 9:40 PM
    The production T1's were built by both PRR and Baldwin.  The first 25 by PRR (5500-5525) and the second 25 (5526-5549) by BLW. The two prototypes were both BLW.

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