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CSS Hegewisch ?
Posted by nanaimo73 on Monday, January 29, 2007 3:14 PM

Does anyone know if the instalation of of high-level platforms is complete ?

What is the foot traffic like in the afternoon ? Are there more people getting off from Chicago, or getting on to head east ?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, January 29, 2007 3:43 PM

     I thought CSS Hegewisch was the name of a Canadian battle cruiser?Clown [:o)]

 

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Monday, January 29, 2007 4:01 PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 29, 2007 4:03 PM

 

 

 NO! you DoltBig Smile [:D], its an ICEBREAKER with a Deck Load of Snowmobiles and it just got back from the Persian Gulf!!Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, January 29, 2007 4:19 PM

 nanaimo73 wrote:
Battle Cruiser, eh ?

Laugh [(-D]  What lengths people will go to, just to have an excuse to drink a lot of Canadian beer!

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Posted by PBenham on Monday, January 29, 2007 4:19 PM
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 NO! you DoltBig Smile [:D], its an ICEBREAKER with a Deck Load of Snowmobiles and it just got back from the Persian Gulf!!Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

The Royal Canadian Navy has a long way to go to catch the crack US Navy!

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, January 29, 2007 4:20 PM
 PBenham wrote:
 SDR_North wrote:

 

 

 NO! you DoltBig Smile [:D], its an ICEBREAKER with a Deck Load of Snowmobiles and it just got back from the Persian Gulf!!Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

"I can't believe that you lost the Kornblatt!"

"Can I say I'm sorry, sir?"

"Go out and find it, Steckler!"

"Y-yes sir!"

    Um....Alex......What is ...Monty Python???Blush [:I]

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Posted by PBenham on Monday, January 29, 2007 4:26 PM
 Murphy Siding wrote:
 PBenham wrote:
 SDR_North wrote:

 

 

 NO! you DoltBig Smile [:D], its an ICEBREAKER with a Deck Load of Snowmobiles and it just got back from the Persian Gulf!!Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

"I can't believe that you lost the Kornblatt!"

"Can I say I'm sorry, sir?"

"Go out and find it, Steckler!"

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    Um....Alex......What is ...Monty Python???Blush [:I]

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, January 29, 2007 4:58 PM
 Murphy Siding wrote:

     I thought CSS Hegewisch was the name of a Canadian battle cruiser?Clown [:o)]

 

Now why would those Canadians name a Battle Cruiser after a Chicago suburb?                      It probably has a Moosehead for a figurehead on its bow!   Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]

 

 


 

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, January 29, 2007 5:02 PM
JOIN the Canadian Navy
And SEE Lake Superior!!

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 29, 2007 5:05 PM
The new platform is in use.  I don't know if all planned work has finished, though.
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Posted by snagletooth on Monday, January 29, 2007 5:10 PM
 Aw, c'mon. Give them Canadians a break. They are half French, you  know. Give 'em some credit, I read in the "just for laugh" thread the the Canadians took on the whole US Atlantic fleet with nothing nore than a lighthouse!! I'd like to see Nimitz do that with the Japanese.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, January 29, 2007 7:23 PM

     I'm aware that CSSHegewisch is a place(?) related to Chicago trains and commuting.  Is it a town? suburb?train station?  I thought it was all one word.

           And besides, the battlecruiser would probably be more acurately refered to as the HMCS Hegewisch.Wink [;)]

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Posted by RABEL on Monday, January 29, 2007 7:32 PM
It's a Chicago  neighborhood on the SE side.
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, January 29, 2007 7:37 PM

 RABEL wrote:
It's a Chicago  neighborhood on the SE side.

     Thanks.  One word or two?

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Posted by RABEL on Monday, January 29, 2007 7:48 PM
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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Monday, January 29, 2007 8:01 PM
Hegewisch -- That's in the 10th Ward, "Fast Eddie's" old territory?
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Posted by beaulieu on Monday, January 29, 2007 8:02 PM
 Murphy Siding wrote:

     I'm aware that CSSHegewisch is a place(?) related to Chicago trains and commuting.  Is it a town? suburb?train station?  I thought it was all one word.

           And besides, the battlecruiser would probably be more acurately refered to as the HMCS Hegewisch.Wink [;)]

CSS is the abreviation for Confederate States Ship, as in CSS Virginia that fought the USS Monitor.

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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Monday, January 29, 2007 8:37 PM
 beaulieu wrote:
 Murphy Siding wrote:

     I'm aware that CSSHegewisch is a place(?) related to Chicago trains and commuting.  Is it a town? suburb?train station?  I thought it was all one word.

           And besides, the battlecruiser would probably be more acurately refered to as the HMCS Hegewisch.Wink [;)]

CSS is the abreviation for Confederate States Ship, as in CSS Virginia that fought the USS Monitor.

Or as in "Chicago South Shore" ...

Dale -- aren't ya glad ya asked? Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, January 29, 2007 9:10 PM
 beaulieu wrote:
 Murphy Siding wrote:

     I'm aware that CSSHegewisch is a place(?) related to Chicago trains and commuting.  Is it a town? suburb?train station?  I thought it was all one word.

           And besides, the battlecruiser would probably be more acurately refered to as the HMCS Hegewisch.Wink [;)]

CSS is the abreviation for Confederate States Ship, as in CSS Virginia that fought the USS Monitor.

     You mean CSS doesn't stand for "Canadian Sailing Ship"?Wink [;)]

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:23 AM
 Poppa_Zit wrote:
 beaulieu wrote:
 Murphy Siding wrote:

     I'm aware that CSSHegewisch is a place(?) related to Chicago trains and commuting.  Is it a town? suburb?train station?  I thought it was all one word.

           And besides, the battlecruiser would probably be more acurately refered to as the HMCS Hegewisch.Wink [;)]

CSS is the abreviation for Confederate States Ship, as in CSS Virginia that fought the USS Monitor.

Or as in "Chicago South Shore" ...

Dale -- aren't ya glad ya asked? Big Smile [:D]

I think so...

I've heard Hegewisch is the busiest station on the South Shore, but I would have thought Randolph would be busier.

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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:59 AM
 nanaimo73 wrote:

I've heard Hegewisch is the busiest station on the South Shore, but I would have thought Randolph would be busier.

"Dwell time also will be saved when the new partially canopied high-level boarding platforms are completed at Hegewisch station, the South Shore's busiest stop. A temporary platform is in use so the old 800-foot, ground-level platform that causes delays by having passengers step up to board can be replaced. The Hegewisch riders are a little disgruntled, said Hanas, but 'for the most part it's working.' "

I cannot find any statistics for CSS ridership by individual station, but my educated guess is that the Hegewisch stop got a huge boost in ridership when the massive construction project began shutting down the Dan Ryan expressway a year ago. They're not done yet, either ...

South Shore ridership at record level

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:28 AM

I'm really flattered by all of the attention being directed to my old neighborhood, but unfortunately, I haven't been there for some time since my parents moved to an assisted living community about a year or two ago.  High-level platforms at the Hegewisch station sound like a good idea but the geography of the station would require a pedestrian overpass or underpass to get to a platform for the eastbound track, assuming separate platforms for each track.  A similar set-up would also be necessary for an island platform between the two tracks.  The station has always been at the edge of the built-up part of the neighborhood and passengers for eastbound trains have always had to cross the westbound track when boarding or alighting.  The CWI and NKP main lines ran parallel to South Shore through Hegewisch with various industrial facilities on the far side of the NKP main.

As far as passenger counts, they have gone up in part because of better parking facilities near the station.  Historically, a fair number of commuters from Calumet City and Lansing have used the Hegewisch station and those numbers may have gone up with recent development of formerly vacant land in those suburbs and the loss of industrial jobs in the Calumet region.  While South Shore service is operated by NICTD and does not honor Metra tickets, even at Hegewisch, Metra has always kicked in a percentage of the subsidy based on ridership between Hegewisch and other Illinois stations.

Hegewisch has been part of the City of Chicago since it was annexed in 1889 but has always been geographically isolated from the rest of the city to the present.  Although part of the city, we were always more oriented to Hammond and the Calumet region of Indiana for jobs, shopping, etc.  Until some recent route changes that made it the southernmost point on the CTA, the southern terminal of CTA's Route 30 at the old Hegewisch South Shore station was always the second southernmost point on Chicago Surface Lines and CTA. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:25 PM
In the current timetable, do all CSS&SB rush hour trains stop at Hegewisch, or do some bypass as expresses?  How frequent is the rush hour service?
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Posted by Poppa_Zit on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:22 PM

 daveklepper wrote:
In the current timetable, do all CSS&SB rush hour trains stop at Hegewisch, or do some bypass as expresses?  How frequent is the rush hour service?

South Shore Line schedules

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:59 AM

Since it's related to my old neighborhood, I'm wondering if anybody knows anything about two rail-related businesses that were located there:

The first is the Ryan Car Company, which was located at about 137th and Avenue O, where a Hyman Michaels scrap yard is currently located.  It apparently went out of business sometime prior to 1952.

The second is Iron & Steel Products, located just north of the Pressed Steel/US Steel Supply facility.  It was a scrap operation that dealt primarily with railroad equipment and closed in the early 1960's.  LIRR 403 (Mike & Ike) was cut up there and IC's steeplecab electrics were sold to that firm before going to South Shore in 1941.

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Posted by Snoqualmie on Tuesday, September 4, 2018 6:56 PM

Iron & Steel Products was owned by my relatives. Unfortunately, they have all passed away but I might be able to answer some questions.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Wednesday, September 5, 2018 6:14 PM

So THAT'S what CSS Hegewisch stands for!  I assumed it was some forgotten Confederate commerce raider like the more famous CSS Alabama or the Shenendoah but was too shy to ask.   Whistling

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, September 6, 2018 7:19 AM

To Firelock:  Mookie asked about that some years ago.  CSS is the reporting mark of the South Shore Line, now turning up on lots of coil flat cars and mill gondolas.  Hegewisch is, of course, the neighborhood where I was raised two blocks from three different main lines.

I do know that Iron & Steel Products was located next to the Pressed Steel Car Co. and was served by the Chicago & Calumet River RR.  I am curious about whether they only cut up old locomotives and rolling stock or if a fair number were resold like the IC/South Shore steeplecabs.

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, September 6, 2018 11:46 AM

Firelock76
So THAT'S what CSS Hegewisch stands for!

Now we just need to know what Firelock stands for.  Ok, so I googled it.

 

But what about the 76?

  

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