Atomic Train Movie

[cprs8622]

I just recently watched Atomic Train which was relesaed in 1998 I think, but anyways this question really goes out to anyone who can answer it. I was wondering what was the acually locomotives featured in the movie, because i cannot figure it out. Like inside the cab, there are features of a GE locomotive. My only other thought is that the locomotives were fictional...?
Also i have been trying to find the BC Rail website and i havent been able to find it yet. Does anyone know if it was taken down after CN took over...?

Thanks

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cprs8622

I just recently watched Atomic Train which was relesaed in 1998 I think, but anyways this question really goes out to anyone who can answer it. I was wondering what was the acually locomotives featured in the movie, because i cannot figure it out. Like inside the cab, there are features of a GE locomotive. My only other thought is that the locomotives were fictional...?
Also i have been trying to find the BC Rail website and i havent been able to find it yet. Does anyone know if it was taken down after CN took over...?

Thanks

What do you think?

and, the "chase" train

[railfan619]

I just watched the same movie over the weekend and the movie was released in 1999 and it is one of the better railroad movies of all times. But anyway I was wondering if any one has any ideas where.I might bealbe to get a copy of that movie.

[Anonymous]

I tried the Wayback Machine at www.archive.org to try to find BC Rails website and found a BC Rail Film Office page that you might be interested in. Here's the link http://web.archive.org/web/20000816234641/www.bcrail.com/bcr/ If that link doesn't work, and I have a feeling it won't, just go to www.archive.org and enter www.bcrail.com into the Wayback Machine and take it from there.

[gabe]

That movie was so stupid. Yeah, we saved the hostages . . . and killed the crew of the oil drag.

I have met Steven Segal in the past, coxcomb is the only word I can use to describe him.

Sorry if that offends anyone one, I just really hatted the movie. Then again, I hate most every movie that tends to think it is cool when trains blow up on a bridge with their crew still in them.

Well, maybe I shouldn't go that far. The Bridge over the River Kwai (sp?) was pretty good.

But, then there is Two Mules for Sister Sarah. Not that I have anything wrong with an extremely sexually active nun on a donkey, but not one of Clints better movies.

I think there was also a Hogans Heroes episode to that effect, but I am barely old enough to remember it.

Bottom line, it is no more cool to blow up a bridge with a train with a crew on it than it is to blow up a bridge with cars and drivers on it.

Gabe

[gabe]

We are talking about the movie with Segal in it right?

Gabe

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gabe

We are talking about the movie with Segal in it right?

Gabe

No Gabe that was "Under Sludge 2, Dark (brown poopy) Territory"

[vsmith]

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[Anonymous]

Sorry, but I just had to laugh when I read "one of the greatest train movies". Here's everything you ever wanted to know about "Atomic Train", and probably more http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0144039/ I especially liked the "goofs" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0144039/goofs , but I bet you guys can come up with a bunch more. It's available on DVD from amazon.com and probably other places as well.

[Anonymous]

While we are on the subject of great train movies, can someone please tell me why a truly great train movie like "Emperor of the North" or "Emperor of the North Pole" (which was it's original release title" haven't been released on DVD yet?

[BentnoseWillie]

The locomotives in those photos are BC Rail M420Ws, a 2000-HP roadswitcher developed in the 1970s by Montreal Locomotive Works (MLW) after Alco went belly-up. CN and BC Rail bought M420Ws new, while Providence and Worcester had M420Rs with trade-in GE trucks. This model was followed after Bombardier purchased MLW by the similar HR412, which CN purchased.

These locomotives have been retired by their original owners; some may be found on various shortlines.

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jarubel

While we are on the subject of great train movies, can someone please tell me why a truly great train movie like "Emperor of the North" or "Emperor of the North Pole" (which was it's original release title" haven't been released on DVD yet?

Emporer of the North, is the correct title, I dont know where this last entry comes from, probably a stupid intern typing in the TV guide listing, thinking the movie was about Santa Claus's attempt at world domination? I dunno.

Why isnt it on DVD? I can think of a 100 movies with the same question, answer? I dunno, too many movies, and the studios will only release so many a year to DVD so we wait while we get more recent crappola issued with great fanfair and advertising, straight into the bargian bin at Wallyworld.[V]

[Anonymous]

I knew they were gonna bust a knuckle before the chase train even caught the runaway...

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Emporer of the North, is the correct title, I dont know where this last entry comes from, probably a stupid intern typing in the TV guide listing, thinking the movie was about Santa Claus's attempt at world domination? I dunno.

Emperor of the North Pole was the original title. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070030/alternateversions

[adrianspeeder]

QUOTE: Originally posted by railfan619

I just watched the same movie over the weekend and the movie was released in 1999 and it is one of the better railroad movies of all times. But anyway I was wondering if any one has any ideas where.I might bealbe to get a copy of that movie.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but are you using drugs?

Every other train detail in that movie was wrong!

No brakes when the air hoses are apart....
No dynamic braking is attempted....
The brakes "burned out" when they finally did catch
Random piles of sand didn't derail the thing....
and so many more details I kept the tape just to watch it for laughs.

Easy now gabe, wrong movie.

Adrianspeeder

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jarubel

QUOTE: Emporer of the North, is the correct title, I dont know where this last entry comes from, probably a stupid intern typing in the TV guide listing, thinking the movie was about Santa Claus's attempt at world domination? I dunno.

Emperor of the North Pole was the original title. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070030/alternateversions

Well I'll be [censored]ed! You learn something new every day![;)][8D]

Emporer of the North Pole does sound more like a movie about Santa's bid for world conquest [:D]

[csxengineer98]

ok....i have to chime in on this one agin... it always brings a smile to my face when i hear this movie talked about...not becouse it was a good movie...but becouse it was so Fing dumb that after watching it..i had to go back to engineers school and be reprogramed on how trains work agin!!! lol.... i know hollywood likes to take some liberties when it comes to train movies...but ***... that movie took it to a whole new level of retrarded.... under seige 2 was kinda dumb..but at least the story line was intersting..and they didnt totly toss out the all the realizum when it came to running trains..unlike atomic train....
if you want to see a good train movie...go rent emporor of the north..run away train...and even the silver streak..... they where all not too too bad movies... but atomic train.....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH... what a joke...
csx engineer

[csxengineer98]

oh yea..i left out Von-ryans express.... now that is a good movie too....
csx engineer

[nanaimo73]

Has anyone ever seen "Ticket to Tomahawk" that was filmed on the Rio Grande Southern ?

[csxengineer98]

QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder

QUOTE: Originally posted by railfan619

I just watched the same movie over the weekend and the movie was released in 1999 and it is one of the better railroad movies of all times. But anyway I was wondering if any one has any ideas where.I might bealbe to get a copy of that movie.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but are you using drugs?

Every other train detail in that movie was wrong!

No brakes when the air hoses are apart....
No dynamic braking is attempted....
The brakes "burned out" when they finally did catch
Random piles of sand didn't derail the thing....
and so many more details I kept the tape just to watch it for laughs.

Easy now gabe, wrong movie.

Adrianspeeder

adrianspeeder...
the points you picked out are intersting..but actuly a few of them can actualy happen.... the brakes burning off...that can and did happen... do you remember the big crash some years ago in california on caljon pass (sp)...when that pota***rain became a runaway and derailed....the brakes burned off of the train after the engineer places it in emergancey...that happend becouse of term known as friction welding... basicly the heat from the brakes on the wheels of the cars created so much friction that it heated the brakes up to the point where they melted and become taffy and the molten brake shoses didnt do anything to help slow it down... infact becouse they became molten they caused less resistance and the train speed went up....
csx engineer

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder



Please don't take this the wrong way, but are you using drugs?

Every other train detail in that movie was wrong!

OK, I agree, but it was 'hollywood' we are talking about,...where fantasy is their funny uncles middle name. I've seen worse stretching of the truth.

But in addition to the issues you brought up, I have a few questions too, lets take a closer look, shall we?

QUOTE:

No brakes when the air hoses are apart....

BINGO, this bothered me too. I missed the first 45- 60 minutes of the movie, and just assumed that the guy blew off all his air with improper applications before I tuned in. I guess you are saying THAT wasn't the case? Then obviously the writer had no clue about how Air brakes work.

QUOTE:
No dynamic braking is attempted....

That occured to me as well, but not all loco's have Dynamics, do they? Are we sure these loco's had DB?

QUOTE: The brakes "burned out" when they finally did catch

I especially thought this was fishy as well. The movie presents the train as having finally gotten the brakes working, slowed the train down, just in time to have the chase engine slam into the back of them, with the inertia of the impact causing the functioning brakes to catastrophically fail. Anybody know if this can even happen? The impression the story gave me was that the inertia transfered from the chase train to the train with brakes applied, caused the applied brakes to "snap", which with a brake system for every axel on the train to fail simultaneously, seemed beyond far fetched

QUOTE: Random piles of sand didn't derail the thing....

Yes, but they weren't real BIG piles of sand

What I kept wondering about was all the manual brake "wheels" I kept seeing on the caboose and on the cars when Rob Lowe took his little excursions.

It seemed to me that with as many guys as they had on the train, they coulds been cranking on some hand wheels, and stopping the train.

Why wouldn't they have been going after the manual hand brakes?

[railfan619]

Yeah I did notice that to and i did note on all trains have hand brakes on every car and even the. Engnies have hand brakes that Rob lowe could have turned to slow or even stop the.Train

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BentnoseWillie

The locomotives in those photos are BC Rail M420Ws, a 2000-HP roadswitcher developed in the 1970s by Montreal Locomotive Works (MLW) after Alco went belly-up. CN and BC Rail bought M420Ws new, while Providence and Worcester had M420Rs with trade-in GE trucks. This model was followed after Bombardier purchased MLW by the similar HR412, which CN purchased.

These locomotives have been retired by their original owners; some may be found on various shortlines.

I thought those were Bombider first time I saw those but thanks for the infio.

[Anonymous]

What a brutal movie! All of the guys I worked with at BC Rail were truly embarrassed by the end product. Even grumpy old #1 seniority trainman Clyde Mulhall (the Movie Train Service conductor for this one) was left shaking his head in wonder! For you useless info buffs, you can see Clyde's mug on the X Files episode where a BCR Budd car was blown up at Porteau Cove. He was turning an angle***prior to the explosion scene.

The BC MOT railway inspectors were postively mortified by what took place on their watch. I hope that the regulatory fines that BCR incurred did not outweigh the revenue derived from that Movie Train.

As for the BCR website, CN took the bcrail.com domain name down for good in May.

Now, the only place to find "British Columbia Railway Co." on the web is as follows:

www.bcrproperties.com and then follow the links to BCRC to see what is left.

[GP40-2]

What an freaking horrible movie.

If I remember correctly, wasn't there a scene in the caboose, when the train first lost its brakes, where some sort of fluid was leaking out of the brake pipe. The crew member was mumbling something about brake fluid...

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

QUOTE: Originally posted by jarubel

While we are on the subject of great train movies, can someone please tell me why a truly great train movie like "Emperor of the North" or "Emperor of the North Pole" (which was it's original release title" haven't been released on DVD yet?

Emporer of the North, is the correct title, I dont know where this last entry comes from, probably a stupid intern typing in the TV guide listing, thinking the movie was about Santa Claus's attempt at world domination? I dunno.

Why isnt it on DVD? I can think of a 100 movies with the same question, answer? I dunno, too many movies, and the studios will only release so many a year to DVD so we wait while we get more recent crappola issued with great fanfair and advertising, straight into the bargian bin at Wallyworld.[V]

You COULD capture it off a video source when the station airs it to your computer hard disk and make a DVD.

That movie I consider the very best in train films with a story of the conductor against the hobo.

Not to mention authentic equiptment and story line.

Atomic Train should stay buried along with the water filled disco shoes. (Shudders)

[Rustyrex]

Atomic Train was the most embarrasing movie with a railroad theme that I have had the displeasure of witnessing, although the errors are so glaring to someone with railroad experience, It made me actually sit and watch, and drive my wife up the wall pointing all them out.[:D].
Emperor of the North, on the other hand, was very enjoyable, to the point my late father, who worked as a brakeman then conductor for 38 years starting in 1944, got me to see this movie as he really liked it. I too hope to see this again someday and on DVD.

[BentnoseWillie]

QUOTE:
I thought those were Bombider first time I saw those but thanks for the infio.

They are - sort of. Bombardier purchased MLW around 1980 and the M420 became the HR412 with minor carbody changes. CN's M420s and HR412s were numbered in a common series.

BTW, these locomotives are not equipped with dynamic braking. That's about the only thing the movie got right, no doubt by accident. Hearing reporters try to get their heads around dynamic braking in discussions of hybrid or stright electric cars is always good for a snicker. [:)]

[spbed]

Amazon or Blockbuster should be of some assistance. [:o)]

Originally posted by railfan619

Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR  Austin TX Sub

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