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NS train hits industrial locomotive

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Posted by PNWRMNM on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 6:58 AM

The cited location does appear to be a split point derail, but it is tough to pick out through the trees.

If that is true, then the focus will be on who last handled the derail.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 11:28 PM

Agree with Balt...NEVER should have happened.

(Ironically about 60 miles from Graniteville and PTC was never designed to detect this......Hope FRA and OSHA fine the industry switcher owner out of existence.)

(1) The image is not iven vaguely clear enough to show derail or it's type.

(2) If it was a split point derail, now it will be a double split point derail.

(3) If it was a flop-over derail, it will now be a double split point derail.

(4) Derails are supposed to throw railcars and locomotives away from adjoining tracks, why didn't that happen here with the locomotive fouling the main?

(5) Who owned and maintained the derail? Was it properly maintained and placed?

(6) Did the operating department tell the track department that the industry would be operating a switch engine on the other side of the derail? Was it covered in the M&O agreement. (Heads may roll over this)

(7) Why wasn't the switch engine cut tied down properly if it was unoccupied?

(*) FRA and NTSB are going to have a field day sorting this cluster-fluff out....

Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by AuTiger19 on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 10:25 PM
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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:43 PM

70Dude's linked satellite photo shows a split rail.  

 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 7:13 PM

Is it known if there was a DERAIL that was protecting the industrial track?  If so, what kind of derail, split rail or other?  Was the derail effective?  If the derail was effective was it placed too close to the NS track to account for the speed and tonnage of what was moving on the industrial lead.

This is a event that NEVER should have happened.

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NS train hits industrial locomotive
Posted by SD70Dude on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 11:12 AM

Greetings from Alberta

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