n012944 While they may get noticed, do they generate new business? Do they help retain current business?
While they may get noticed, do they generate new business? Do they help retain current business?
Couldn't hurt. Say a potential shipper sees a semi rolling past that glistens, and then sees a diesel locomotive that looks like a self-propelled slum (or vice versa) it's bound to affect his thinking. It would mine.
Retaining business? Only quality service can do that.
BaltACDThe military installation near me built a facility specifically to wash vehicles, particularly those that had been in the field. The tank portion actually has a drive-through pond. The fiacility includes holding ponds and a host of other pollution mitigation facilities.
I was a tanker and in my 25 year career (74-99) all vehicles, wheeled or tracked, were washed before being allowed into the motor pool after every time they went to the field. A clean tank's running gear is a lot easier to inspect and work on than one caked in dried mud. And, yes, the environmental friendliness of the wash racks went from "direct to the sewer" to "process through filtering systems and monitor the waste water" during my career. I don't know the cost in dollars but the later had to have been much more expensive to build and operate. On the other hand, it can be argued that such mitigation is cheaper in the long run. Not being involved except as a user, I just asssumed that Tank-Automotive Command and the Corps of Engineers had sharpened their pencils and done a thorough cost/benfit analysis - as well as obeying the law.
rdamon Seeing some of UP's Heritage units on the various cameras it looks like they all got some TLC.
Seeing some of UP's Heritage units on the various cameras it looks like they all got some TLC.
They were quietly repainted a few years ago, so they're looking a bit more fresh than they would otherwise.
Seems like a good fund-raiser for a high school sports team :D
The SP did just fine not washing anything, oh wait..
Just kind of shows the state of the companies. Even the trash trucks near me are all sparkling clean.
If you don't have pride to wash the oil running down the engine...not to mention the problems of oil accumulating on walkways and grab irons.
And probably factors in a subconscience way for employee retention. Kind of speaks to a larger sense of employee value.
I hear the local managers catch hell from higher-ups if they let their company vehicles get dirty. Ironic?
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tree68 jeffhergert I think environmental regulations also have changed, making it more expensive to wash engines. You know, collecting and cleaning the dirty, oily water. The military installation near me built a facility specifically to wash vehicles, particularly those that had been in the field. The tank portion actually has a drive-through pond. The fiacility includes holding ponds and a host of other pollution mitigation facilities. Puting in such a ficility at every locomotive service facility would be prohibitive, and any facility that was washing dozens of locos per day would certainly garner the attention of regulators.
jeffhergert I think environmental regulations also have changed, making it more expensive to wash engines. You know, collecting and cleaning the dirty, oily water.
The military installation near me built a facility specifically to wash vehicles, particularly those that had been in the field. The tank portion actually has a drive-through pond. The fiacility includes holding ponds and a host of other pollution mitigation facilities.
Puting in such a ficility at every locomotive service facility would be prohibitive, and any facility that was washing dozens of locos per day would certainly garner the attention of regulators.
The 'major' engine service facilities on the Class 1 carriers are very limited in comparison to what existed in decades gone by.
On CSX there are three - Cumberland, Huntington, Waycross.
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jeffhergertI think environmental regulations also have changed, making it more expensive to wash engines. You know, collecting and cleaning the dirty, oily water.
Putting in such a ficility at every locomotive service facility would be prohibitive, and any facility that was washing dozens of locos per day would certainly garner the attention of regulators.
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SD70Dude I wonder if Montana Rail Link continued to clean their units after the Mullan Tunnel was upgraded? https://railpictures.net/photo/411650/ https://railpictures.net/photo/411748/ I know this is about trains, but I can't stop drooling over that truck.
I wonder if Montana Rail Link continued to clean their units after the Mullan Tunnel was upgraded?
https://railpictures.net/photo/411650/
https://railpictures.net/photo/411748/
I know this is about trains, but I can't stop drooling over that truck.
Truck is a '78 - '79 Ford; my father and brother each had one.
In good shape and fully depreciated.. that would be enough to make an accoutant drool too.
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SD70DudeI know this is about trains, but I can't stop drooling over that truck.
Picture One, yuck!
Picture Two, oh yeah, that pick-up's a classic!
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zugmann Our engines used to get run through the wash rack every time they went to the bigger engine shop up the road for their 92 day MI. They haven't done that in years. Probably Something Related to an operating policy change or something.
Our engines used to get run through the wash rack every time they went to the bigger engine shop up the road for their 92 day MI.
They haven't done that in years. Probably Something Related to an operating policy change or something.
I think environmental regulations also have changed, making it more expensive to wash engines. You know, collecting and cleaning the dirty, oily water. I thought I also read once that some of the chemicals used for cleaning are no longer allowed. The ones that are allowed are more expensive than the old ones.
Our engines get washed every time it rains. But the dirty, oily runoff is collected by the ground.
Jeff
Precision Schedule Reductions? These days I just find the term PSR as the most contradictory ever crafted... As none of the C1's actually have precise or scheduled railroading...Why not just call it RSR? Reduced Service Railroading? A client of mine we had a nice laugh over that term some months back when I was advising them.
While G&W has a lot of locomotives, they are spread out amongst their various properties. I'd opine that most of those properties have just a few locomotives, so keeping them spiffy is less of a challenge.
The five US Class 1's operate almost 25,000 locomotives, collectively, and with the exception of special purpose units (yards, etc) they travel the entire country.
G&W has just shy of 600 in total, spread out over 100+ railroads. If your corner of the G&W world has just five locos, keeping them looking nice is a little easier - and you know that you'll be running that same locomotive tomorrow.
UlrichTheir locomotives look like Athearns straight of the box.
I'm an O Gauger myself but I get your meaning perfectly!
Flintlock76 Good for them for putting forth the effort. How do you expect people to respect you as a first-class professional organization if you don't look like one? Appearances are everything.
Good for them for putting forth the effort.
How do you expect people to respect you as a first-class professional organization if you don't look like one? Appearances are everything.
100% true. G&W has figured it out. Their locomotives look like Athearns straight of the box. If one weathered them even a little they would look unrealistic.
G&W clearly cares about how their locomotives look.. everytime I see one here in town it looks as if it came right off the wash line. Even my daughter who is not a railfan noticed..
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