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Posted by kgbw49 on Sunday, March 6, 2022 8:39 AM

OK, thanks for the help.

So it sounds like they ship from Dutch Harbor in a foreign flag vessel to New Brunswick.

At New Brunswick they put the fish in trucks, put the trucks "piggyback" on the short line railroad.

After their short line railroad ride, they send the trucks on their way into the Northeastern US.

And they do all this for all the fish they catch to get around the Jones Acr, not just for the halibut.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:57 PM

kgbw49

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If they are shipping it via ship to New Brunswick, CA, that is a heck of along way to go via ship. Or are they flying it there? Thanks for any assistance in helping me understand that part of the trip.

 

The wiki article says they go via Panama Canal.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:44 PM

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I'd have to believe that 99.9% of freight shipping out of Dutch Harbor AK goes by ship, so I think it's safe the say the answer is probably by ship. My question- isn't there a source for fish somewhere closer to New Brunswick? Like maybe the Atlantic ocean? 

I'm betting fresh fish flies.  It's not going to keep long enough for much of any other method.

Frozen, however, can take about as long as it needs.

I'm not an ichthyologis by any stretch, but I would imagine there are some species found in the Pacific that are not necessarily found in the Atlantic.  And you just know that some connoisseurs just have to have the Pacific version... 

I dunno. I bet Dutch Harbor doesn't have an aiport big enough to handle big cargo planes that would be needed to make a buck. But, I don't know.

       An article on Wikipedia says the fish we are talking about were leaving Dutch Harbor frozen, by ship. I chuckled when I read a reference to Alaska Reefer Management in that article.

Side note: the article said the source of the fish in question had switched last summer to fish coming from Russia.

I am guessing that is changing as we speak.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:33 PM

tree68

 

 
Murphy Siding
I'd have to believe that 99.9% of freight shipping out of Dutch Harbor AK goes by ship, so I think it's safe the say the answer is probably by ship. My question- isn't there a source for fish somewhere closer to New Brunswick? Like maybe the Atlantic ocean?

 

I'm betting fresh fish flies.  It's not going to keep long enough for much of any other method.

Frozen, however, can take about as long as it needs.

I'm not an ichthyologis by any stretch, but I would imagine there are some species found in the Pacific that are not necessarily found in the Atlantic.  And you just know that some connoisseurs just have to have the Pacific version...

 

I dunno. I bet Dutch Harbor doesn't have an aiport big enough to handle big cargo planes that would be needed to make a buck. But, I don't know.

       An article on Wikipedia says the fish we are talking about were leaving Dutch Harbor frozen, by ship. I chuckled when I read a reference to Alaska Reefer Management in that article.

Side note: the article said the source of the fish in question had switched last summer to fish coming from Russia.


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Posted by kgbw49 on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 6:56 PM

I wonder if the Dutch Harbor fishermen have increased the size of their catch with Precision Scheduled Trawling?

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 6:30 PM

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I'm betting fresh fish flies.  

I'm pretty sure they swim. 

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Posted by Lithonia Operator on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:44 AM

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I'm not an ichthyologis

But if you find yourself in that position, I recommend calamine lotion.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:37 AM

Murphy Siding
I'd have to believe that 99.9% of freight shipping out of Dutch Harbor AK goes by ship, so I think it's safe the say the answer is probably by ship. My question- isn't there a source for fish somewhere closer to New Brunswick? Like maybe the Atlantic ocean?

I'm betting fresh fish flies.  It's not going to keep long enough for much of any other method.

Frozen, however, can take about as long as it needs.

I'm not an ichthyologis by any stretch, but I would imagine there are some species found in the Pacific that are not necessarily found in the Atlantic.  And you just know that some connoisseurs just have to have the Pacific version...

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:23 AM

kgbw49

Okay, I am usually pretty good at thinking outside the box, and I get this one, but my bigger question is how are they shipping the catch to New Brunswick from Dutch Harbor, AK, which is halfway around the globe from New Brunswick?

If they are shipping it via ship to New Brunswick, CA, that is a heck of along way to go via ship. Or are they flying it there? Thanks for any assistance in helping me understand that part of the trip.

 

I'd have to believe that 99.9% of freight shipping out of Dutch Harbor AK goes by ship, so I think it's safe the say the answer is probably by ship. My question- isn't there a source for fish somewhere closer to New Brunswick? Like maybe the Atlantic ocean?

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Posted by Lithonia Operator on Monday, February 28, 2022 9:23 PM

I didn't get that part either.

Still in training.


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Posted by kgbw49 on Monday, February 28, 2022 7:19 PM

Okay, I am usually pretty good at thinking outside the box, and I get this one, but my bigger question is how are they shipping the catch to New Brunswick from Dutch Harbor, AK, which is halfway around the globe from New Brunswick?

If they are shipping it via ship to New Brunswick, CA, that is a heck of along way to go via ship. Or are they flying it there? Thanks for any assistance in helping me understand that part of the trip.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Monday, February 28, 2022 5:10 PM

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Worlds shortest short line?
Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, February 27, 2022 2:16 PM

An attempt to bypass the Jones act.  Note: It  is supposed to be an actual common carrier v. park trains.

Canada Has a Railroad for Fish That's Only 200 Feet Long. Here's Why (msn.com)

Bayside Canadian Railway - Wikipedia

Reporting marks anyone?

 

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