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UIC vision 2030
Posted by Overmod on Monday, November 1, 2021 7:20 AM

Here is the UIC document on the 'role of railways' in furthering climate remediation in the near short-term, as will be presented at the COP26 'climate-change' conference in Glasgow.

There appears to be some discussion of this in the trade press, with opinions on what it signifies, but without a link to the original document.

https://uic.org/IMG/pdf/uic-design-a-better-future-vision-of-rail-2030.pdf

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Posted by flourish96 on Monday, November 1, 2021 8:52 AM

Seems like an awful lot of wishful thinking without offering any realistic ways to achieve those ambitious plans. Personally I'd love to see a resurgance of rail transport but the government using "social tariffs" to force people and businesses to use rail is not the way to do it.

 

I also find it interesting the amount of times the piece claims to want stations to become a destination: not just for rail users but for people to hang out and work in. Have the people behind this piece never seen an intercity transit station? The people that choose to "hang out" there definitely don't create a welcoming experience for actual rail users!

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Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, November 1, 2021 8:58 PM

The paper also talks about "pricing in the external environmental costs of transport".  That would counteract the social subsidy of autos and planes.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, November 3, 2021 7:59 AM

flourish96

Seems like an awful lot of wishful thinking without offering any realistic ways to achieve those ambitious plans. Personally I'd love to see a resurgance of rail transport but the government using "social tariffs" to force people and businesses to use rail is not the way to do it.

 

I also find it interesting the amount of times the piece claims to want stations to become a destination: not just for rail users but for people to hang out and work in. Have the people behind this piece never seen an intercity transit station? The people that choose to "hang out" there definitely don't create a welcoming experience for actual rail users!

 

You do realize that the UIC perspective, although an international organization, is European, where train stations are vibrant places?  

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Posted by Psychot on Wednesday, November 3, 2021 8:55 AM

charlie hebdo

 

 
flourish96

Seems like an awful lot of wishful thinking without offering any realistic ways to achieve those ambitious plans. Personally I'd love to see a resurgance of rail transport but the government using "social tariffs" to force people and businesses to use rail is not the way to do it.

 

I also find it interesting the amount of times the piece claims to want stations to become a destination: not just for rail users but for people to hang out and work in. Have the people behind this piece never seen an intercity transit station? The people that choose to "hang out" there definitely don't create a welcoming experience for actual rail users!

 

 

 

You do realize that the UIC perspective, although an international organization, is European, where train stations are vibrant places?  

 

Right! Most European railway stations are great places to hang out, and they're taking it a step further with the newer ones like the Berlin and Vienna Hauptbahnhofs, which combine hubs for all forms of ground transportation with shopping and dining.

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Posted by flourish96 on Wednesday, November 3, 2021 9:28 AM

Psychot

 

charlie hebdo

 

 
flourish96

Seems like an awful lot of wishful thinking without offering any realistic ways to achieve those ambitious plans. Personally I'd love to see a resurgance of rail transport but the government using "social tariffs" to force people and businesses to use rail is not the way to do it.

 

I also find it interesting the amount of times the piece claims to want stations to become a destination: not just for rail users but for people to hang out and work in. Have the people behind this piece never seen an intercity transit station? The people that choose to "hang out" there definitely don't create a welcoming experience for actual rail users!

 

 

 

You do realize that the UIC perspective, although an international organization, is European, where train stations are vibrant places?  

 

 

 

Right! Most European railway stations are great places to hang out, and they're taking it a step further with the newer ones like the Berlin and Vienna Hauptbahnhofs, which combine hubs for all forms of ground transportation with shopping and dining.

 

 

Guess that explains why this piece is so out of touch with the freight/transit situation in the U.S. Thanks for clarification! 

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Wednesday, November 3, 2021 10:30 AM

flourish96
Guess that explains why this piece is so out of touch with the freight/transit situation in the U.S. Thanks for clarification! 

The Ogilvie Transportation Center and area around it in Chicago have a lot of businesses, shops, fast food, etc. Not like 50 years ago when NorthWestern Station adjoined skid row.

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