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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 26, 2002 7:10 PM
Now, I'm not nowhere near Gibbon Jct, Rochelle, Ill,, Witten Place (Cinncinati), or any of these big time railroad cities. But I want to know:

What was the highest frequency (number) of trains have you ever seen in a railfan spot, how long were you at this spot to see these trains, and where is this spot located? I'm getting to point that I'm ready to travel to some of these railroad hotspots.

I've seen 19 within a 6 and a half hour window down here at Devine Jct in Columbia, SC. This is not common. It all depends how the coal traffic is going to determine if you're going to have a good day of train watching down here. The best time to get here is at 5 AM. You will be guaranteed though to see 10 within a good 4 to 5 hours from 5AM
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 26, 2002 10:45 PM
How many trains use the line between Columbia and Hamlet.Columbiarailfan.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 26, 2002 10:58 PM
Just 4. Q463, Q464, Amtrak 91, and Amtrak 92. That's not many, but, another purpose of this line (I guess) is as a alternate route. When the Silver Meteor derailed a couple of weeks back, the Amtrak Auto Train, a intermodal train, and the Tropicana Juice Train used this route while the line was closed. I seen these trains. No telling what came through during the night hours.

The CSX line that puts most train through Columbia is the CN&L Sub from Laurens. All coal and grain trains comes down this route, and also the F788, F789, Q210, and Q211.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, May 26, 2002 11:02 PM
I found another spot in Clinton, SC where you can see a nice number of trains. This place is called the Dover Connector. Here, CSX trains from the Monroe Sub (Hamlet, NC to Greenwood, SC) and the CN&L Sub (Laurens, SC to Columbia, SC) connects to run through the town of Clinton. I went there Friday for about 2 hours and saw 3 coal trains on the CN&L and Q675 and F761 on the Monroe Sub.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 27, 2002 7:48 AM
What time on friday.Between Bowater and Chester SC on the Monroe sub i did not see a dam thing.Wonder how many trains this line gets and the best time to see them.I like the area because nothing is around.I like to see trains in the country.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 27, 2002 9:01 AM
The thing is. I only saw 2 of them that was on the Monroe Sub. The other 3 took the diverging route onto the CN&L Sub heading to Columbia. Now, I usually railfan this spot in Clinton, SC usually in the early morning or late afternoon. I go to Clinton because not only you're getting the action from the Monroe Sub, but also the coal train action coming down from Spartanburg on the Spartanburg Sub to Laurens, and then the CN&L from Laurens to Columbia. In the southwest corner of Clinton, the lines come together, and at the Dover Connector where I railfan, the lines splits again. But, you can have some down time here, and then you can have 3 trains in a hour. That's usually in the early morning hours between 5AM and 10 AM and the mid to late afternoon between 3PM and 8PM
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 27, 2002 10:09 AM
If you want to travel a bit, then Memphis TN would be a choice. This would be the nearest location to see all 4 major railroads in one location. We have a spot about a third of a mile east of the Mississippi River rail bridges in Memphis. The location on a curve is Kansas Ave. Do not go near the river bridges as they are checked all the time by rr police.
Over several hours you will see 3 trains per hour average. About 72 trains per 24 hours pass.
From Kansas Ave. you can see the NS and CSX interchange trains to BNSF and UP. To the east all four railroads have parallel main lines within sight, and the CN-IC has a line which crosses them all about a quarter of a mile away. So you have 5 railroad lines in sight.
Kansas Ave. is on the north side of the tracks in a curve just west of the Kentucky Street grade crossing. At this location, the railroad police will not ask you to leave. It is a safe location as the Memphis police dept. has a office within sight to the west. Do not go to other areas to the east or south as they are not secure.
I guarantee you will like it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 27, 2002 1:19 PM
I live in Front Royal, Virginia and this place sees a good amount of train. Riverton Jct. where the Piedmont Division and Virginia Division meet, this is the Norfolk Southern by the way is a nice place to watch trains because it is on Public Property. One night a couple of months ago I heard 10 trains within about an hour to two hours only because intermodal train 227 stalled on the hill at Linden. There were 5 on the Virginia Division side and 5 on the Piedmont side. You can see up to 20 a day through here as explained in the Post on this site called Railfan Stories. Another great place to watch trains is from Bluefield, WV to Williamson,WV. This again is the Norfolk Southern. I went there a year ago and saw many many trains within a short amount of time. I think I saw 2 intermodals, 4 coal trains, 1 empty, a grain train, and an autorack train all within about 45 minutes. The best place to Railfan out there is between Welch and Farm. In all i seen 52 trains within about 24 hours. There is a lot of coal out there as well as grain and mixed freight. I think there is only like 4 intermodals 218,217,233, and 234. I was supposed to go back there this year but I didnt. Man I wish I could of gotten out there! One other good place I forgot to mention is Roanoke, Va. This is once again the Norfolk Southern. The yard is huge and this area can see up to 100 a day depending on if its a good day or not. Even on holidays you can see a whole bunch of them. I havent been down there for a while but I hope to go back soon. The best place to watch them by the way is at the VA Museum of Transportation which is right next to the yard. This place is a railroad museum and had a great model railroad display inside.
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Posted by favuprailroadfan on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:45 AM
There is one place that you may find interesting. Have you ever thought of traveling to Amarillo Texas? Its all BNSF with UP having trackage right into town. There you will find everyting you could ask for. You have lines coming in from every direction. Amarillo averages around 100 trains a day. Most of them on the Transcon, but there is the all coal line that runs from the Powder River Basin going to Fort Worth and on south. UP has trackage rights on the two lines that run in from the north, from Dalhart and Stratford Texas. The line from Stratford really isn't that busy, but the line from Dalhart usually runs around 20 coal a day. Amarillo is not that hard to get around, most of the good watching places are on the NE part of town where all the junctions are. Just west of the junctions is the yard for the line from Dalhart, but just SW of there is the big yard on the Transcon. They both are in an area about a mile around so you can get alot of action in a small place. I think it goes to five maybe even six tracks there at the junction so the line to Fort Worth needs to get over because the Transcon heads NE from the junction. Plus there is another line that runs out east from this junction also. They does this by crossing directly over or by switches. It can be a real mess sometimes. I have seen a total of 4 trains through here at one point. So if you want to see some action, just head to Amarillo Texas, sit back, relax, enjoy the action because it isn't very long before something rolls through.

Hope this helps, Dru
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Posted by BRAKIE on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:42 AM
Well,there are some places here in Ohio that you can get you fill of trains.Do remember it depends on the day and time.Anyway,the NS yard at Bellevue rates high up there,followed by Fostoria also Attica Jct can be very busy or dead..Marion seems to be lacking it's former glory that it once had back in the Conrail days.Still alot of trains can be seen.In a normal 8-10 hour day at these sites you can see 50-65 trains.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:55 AM
My highest frequency of traffic was 16 trains in an hour and a half at Gibbon NE.
If you're heded to the East, be sure to spend a night or two at the Station Inn in Cresson, PA. It is on the western slope of the Allegehny(sp?) mountains so there's plenty of pusher action, along with 4 Amtrak trains. There are alot of really fantastic spots to watch trains, all within a 15 mile drive. These include but are not limited to the iron bridge at Cassandra, the Gallitzen tunnels, the horseshoe curve, and downtown Altoona(which has a nice footbridge directly over the Amtrak station where westbound freights often pause before opening the throttles wide and climbing the grade to the curve). Most of the towns along the rails have parks or at least a bench for railfans to sit and take in the action.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:51 PM
Last thursday I saw 6-7 trains in a 2 hour period in Peru, IN. Most of the time it was 2 trains at a time going in opposite directions. Mostly trailers and containers. It was the NS lines there. It was around noon. Is it common to see UP trains on NS track?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:51 PM
Last thursday I saw 6-7 trains in a 2 hour period in Peru, IN. Most of the time it was 2 trains at a time going in opposite directions. Mostly trailers and containers. It was the NS lines there. It was around noon. Is it common to see UP trains on NS track?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:18 PM
Columbiarailfan you might try between Linwood NC and Salsburry NC every time i go there you see a lot.Spencer is in between you can go and see the steam also.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:39 PM
OK. There have been talk about a railfan get together in Salisbury, NC on June 8th. Recently, people have been seeing UP power on 221 and 222 so I probably will go up there that weekend. One day they saw a SD70M and a SD90, and another day was 2 SD70Ms.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:59 PM
I used to live in La Grange Il. Along the BN (cbq TRIPLE TRACK RACEWAY....I sat down one Summer day and recorded every train movement 85 trains in a 12 hour period....from 7-8:30 and 4-6 these were commuter rush hour metras, but a train is a train.
That is an Average of 7 trains an hour from 6 am-6 pm

Check out CP La Grange as well..you add that into the mix and you could top 100 trains in a day...if you get into the Chicago area let me know.
I am in WA now but I know and remember the area well...especially the main yards for the CBQ..CNW and CP rail. my E-mail is bn9900@yahoo.com. Enjoy your trip.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 30, 2002 1:09 PM
Yes yes UP power is around i saw SD90'S and SD70'S.One SD70 looked a little strange at the back top.I railfan at a remote section of Belmont NC when i stay close to home.
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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, June 8, 2002 8:27 AM
You will see train activity between 50 and 70 per 24 hr. period in Muncie, In. We have NS radiating out in 3 directions and the former Conrail line now operated by CSX through here in an east - west direction....All line activity can be watched from one location in down town as the lines cross in the Walnut St. area. Don't know any specific time that has the most activity but these are the figures of activity I've seen printed several times. No Amtak.

QM

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, June 8, 2002 8:30 AM
Correction to above..."Amtrak".

QM

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 8, 2002 8:53 PM
Update on the Kansas Ave location in Memphis;
today we had 13 trains in 2 hours and 15 minutes from noon until 2;15 PM. The afternoons until dark are the best times here.
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Posted by dstill on Friday, June 21, 2002 11:10 AM
Hamlet is good, one day about 2 years ago I saw 30+ between 2am and 2pm. While on vacation this year we went to Grand Canyon and flew into KC then went to Oklahoma City and took I40West, saw trains on the entire trip. I saw several going into Amarillo,TX. Gallup,NM saw several all the way to Williams,AZ.
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Posted by dstill on Friday, June 21, 2002 11:15 AM
Came back through Colorado, from Grand Junction to Denver,CO saw several and on back to KC. When leaving KC had about 2 hours to look around, passed Armourdale yard, union station, Argentine yard. If I had had time here trains would be unlimited.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 24, 2002 3:36 PM
I second Clayton's note re:La Grange. I saw 22 trains from 11AM to 3PM. La Grange is my favorite hotspot in the Chicago area.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 24, 2002 3:43 PM
Go to Dolton Junction in Dolton, IL for one of the hottest railfan spots in the USA. I saw 37 trains from 10:30 AM to 3:30 PM. Many times 2 and sometimes 3 trains passed through the junction at the same time.

Dolton is a gritty suburb south of Chicago. The area surronding the junction is by no means picturesque. However, it is right next to Dolton police station. I had no fears for my safety when I wsa there.

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