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Posted by Harrison on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 9:44 AM

My first video from my recent Maine trip is out now. Amtrak action all around, no freight... yet.

https://youtu.be/-h0tjgK8toA

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, August 17, 2021 12:09 PM

Harrison

My first video from my recent Maine trip is out now. Amtrak action all around, no freight... yet.

https://youtu.be/-h0tjgK8toA

 

 

Nice catches Harrison!  Good to see White River Junction's still there!

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Posted by Harrison on Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:32 AM

I've been in Maine over the weekend and busy with other things. Here are two videos, one from Waterville Maine and the other from Port Douglas near where I live. Enjoy...

https://youtu.be/-LL0uh1FGrU

https://youtu.be/cS_8eYVO2NY

 

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Posted by Harrison on Friday, September 3, 2021 7:02 PM

A great few hours were spent chasing trains on the CP and CN/NECR lines north of me, on the fringe of Canada, yesterday. Enjoy the video!

https://youtu.be/S90pM95rem0

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Posted by Harrison on Wednesday, September 8, 2021 9:08 AM

Some nice contrast in lighting is shown in this video of CP 650.

https://youtu.be/7EE23fF2V_Y

I talk about the photography a bit more here:

https://northcountrytrains.wordpress.com/2021/09/08/sunny-while-raining-650-at-south-junction-road/

 

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Posted by Harrison on Sunday, September 12, 2021 6:37 PM

We're back in Maine with the final part of my Waterville trip. Lots of great Pan Am action in this one, even a little Amtrak at the end.

https://youtu.be/6DqDHm3o7g0

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:37 PM

Nice catches there Harrison!

I'm surprised to see those Guilford engines that still have Guilford paint schemes, but I guess whoever owns 'em isn't in a rush to re-paint.  It's an expensive proposition any way you look at it.

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Posted by Harrison on Wednesday, September 15, 2021 11:58 AM

Flintlock76

Nice catches there Harrison!

I'm surprised to see those Guilford engines that still have Guilford paint schemes, but I guess whoever owns 'em isn't in a rush to re-paint.  It's an expensive proposition any way you look at it.

 

Technically the company is still Boston & Maine, although they also call it Guilford. Pan Am has an identity issue...

I'm curious to see what you guys think of this train. 226 cars... I'll explain more in the video.

https://youtu.be/x7BfXM83vec

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Posted by Harrison on Sunday, September 19, 2021 11:30 AM

I somehow can't escape from Pan Am this year... and I'm not complaining! Enjoy my trip to Whitehall, featuring the D&H's best morning railfanning.

https://youtu.be/L-SNBpUaYmU

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Posted by MidlandMike on Saturday, October 2, 2021 10:37 PM

I watched your longest train video, and your mention of wollastonite reminded me of a geology field trip to the Adirondacks I took almost 50 years ago.  The Adirondacks are one of the more interesting geologic provences.  I checked the shelf with my better rock samples, and a good chunk of wollastonite is still there.  It's a white splintery calcium silicate mineral, often associated with metamorphism around limestones.  It has some of the properties of asbestos, and has found increased use as a substitute, among other uses.

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Posted by Harrison on Sunday, October 3, 2021 11:29 AM

Thanks Midland Mike! That is a very nice chunk, probably can't find one like that anymore.

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Posted by Harrison on Friday, October 8, 2021 8:14 PM

Did someone say F-units? On the D&H? Coming right up!

https://youtu.be/8Nqj0Wmver0

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, October 8, 2021 8:45 PM

Great catches Harrison!  Thanks!

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Posted by Harrison on Sunday, October 17, 2021 2:35 PM

Possibly my last Pan Am catch is in this video, from a trip south about a month ago. 

https://youtu.be/8-wudbLS7Ls

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, October 17, 2021 3:29 PM

Ignore the "Black Hole" everyone, click on the YouTube link.

And watch it!  That's an order!  Captain

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Sunday, October 17, 2021 10:12 PM

Harrison,

Can you comment on the bridge that ends short of the trackin the video . Did it cross the RR at some past time? 

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Posted by MidlandMike on Sunday, October 17, 2021 10:14 PM

From your video and my SPV rail atlas, it seems that Mechanicville west to CPF478 (where the line splits between CP and PanAm) is owned by CP; and PanAm's "Rotterdam Branch" is isolated from the rest of the system by those trackage rights.  Also I wonder where the CP-NS divide occurs.

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Posted by Harrison on Monday, October 18, 2021 10:45 AM

Electroliner 1935

Harrison,

Can you comment on the bridge that ends short of the trackin the video . Did it cross the RR at some past time? 

 

It's actually a dam/lock on the Mohawk River/former Erie Canal. It's called Lock 10, and is a popular railfanning location from both sides.

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Posted by Harrison on Monday, October 18, 2021 10:49 AM

MidlandMike

From your video and my SPV rail atlas, it seems that Mechanicville west to CPF478 (where the line splits between CP and PanAm) is owned by CP; and PanAm's "Rotterdam Branch" is isolated from the rest of the system by those trackage rights.  Also I wonder where the CP-NS divide occurs.

 

 

The CP/NS split is at the Schenectady interlocking- but CP trains and crews never go south of Mohawk yard, unless there is a GE move. Pan Am uses the CP Freight Line between CPF 477-8 and Mechanicville. I have a strong feeling that once CSX buys Pan Am, the already nearly dead Rotterdam Branch will close down.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Monday, October 18, 2021 6:02 PM

Harrison
It's actually a dam/lock on the Mohawk River/former Erie Canal. It's called Lock 10, and is a popular railfanning location from both sides.

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Found it on Google Maps. Thanks Harrison. 

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Posted by Harrison on Friday, October 22, 2021 8:51 PM

I head back to my old favorite- the River Line- for this video. Enjoy some nice morning action!

https://youtu.be/uF6U6ata-as

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Sunday, October 24, 2021 9:07 PM

Have you considered getting a microphone wind shield?

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Posted by MidlandMike on Sunday, October 24, 2021 10:22 PM

Harrison

 

 
MidlandMike

From your video and my SPV rail atlas, it seems that Mechanicville west to CPF478 (where the line splits between CP and PanAm) is owned by CP; and PanAm's "Rotterdam Branch" is isolated from the rest of the system by those trackage rights.  Also I wonder where the CP-NS divide occurs.

 

 

 

 

The CP/NS split is at the Schenectady interlocking- but CP trains and crews never go south of Mohawk yard, unless there is a GE move. Pan Am uses the CP Freight Line between CPF 477-8 and Mechanicville. I have a strong feeling that once CSX buys Pan Am, the already nearly dead Rotterdam Branch will close down.

 

Does PanAm also interchange with NS at Mokawk Yard.  Looking at Mohawk Yard on Google Earth, I was suprised how small it is.  Is it used for anything besides interchanging trains?

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Posted by Harrison on Monday, October 25, 2021 7:50 AM

Mohawk is pretty much just for interchange. It used to be a major interchange with NYC (present day CSX), but now there is very little traffic for them. After that it would go into Selkirk via the Albany Main and Voorheesville, and now I think it goes through Kenwood and Albany. Pan Am will run a RJ-1 or XO-1 into Mohawk every couple of weeks, and CP runs from Saratoga to Mohawk and back every so often as well. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, October 25, 2021 7:15 PM

Hey Harrison!

I went looking for a history of the abandoned Catskill Mountain Railway and found this film from 1906!  (The railroad was abandoned in 1918)

Who knows?  You may  have been shooting video from one the bridges pictured in this 115 year old film!

Thought you (and others) might enjoy seeing it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIfOW853zpc  

One of the commenters on your "Live Stream" Friday night wondered about seeing a steam train on the West Shore's Catskill Creek Bridge.  I've been looking in the archives here at the "Fortress Flintlock" but haven't found anything yet, but if I do, I'll let you know.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, October 25, 2021 9:42 PM

Harrison, I am starting to get some idea how CP's ex-D&H is run.  Do you have a list of CP and NS trains that run on the line?

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Posted by adkrr64 on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 7:11 AM

MidlandMike
Harrison, I am starting to get some idea how CP's ex-D&H is run.  Do you have a list of CP and NS trains that run on the line?

Harrison recently answered that very question about the line between Schenectady and Binghamtom in this thread:

http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/289895.aspx

Now we just need him to provide the details north of Schenectady, which I am sure he will soon enough!

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Posted by Harrison on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 7:57 AM

adkrr64

 

 
MidlandMike
Harrison, I am starting to get some idea how CP's ex-D&H is run.  Do you have a list of CP and NS trains that run on the line?

 

Harrison recently answered that very question about the line between Schenectady and Binghamtom in this thread:

http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/289895.aspx

Now we just need him to provide the details north of Schenectady, which I am sure he will soon enough!

 

 

Sure thing. I may do a video on it at some point, if I deem it's not to "open". Some employees don't like their schedules shared, but when I'm directly asked, I do not hesitate. 

The NS trains 22K/23K and 11R/16R I mentioned on the Freight Line thread are Pan Am Southern (PAS) trains, and go to Ayer over the B&M. They take the CP Freight Line at Burnt Hills to get to Mechanicville, where Pan Am/B&M takes over. 

31T/30T are NS run-throughs to CN at Rouses Point. They run over trackage rights to Saratoga or Ballston Spa, where CP handles them north to Rouses Point. Between Saratoga and Bingo they handle all Canadian traffic for southern points, basically the modern version of RW6/WR1. North of Saratoga, they handle CN traffic for southern points, so the trains grow substantially shorter. At Rouses Point CN takes them to and from Montreal.

252/253 are CP's manifests between Montreal and Saratoga, formerly Bingo before the buyout by NS. They run 6 days a week and are pretty substantial. Their current schedule has them through Plattsburgh during the night, so I don't usually see them. They handle all CP traffic for points south and for Bluff Point, Whitehall, and Albany. 

D45 is the Saratoga-Albany turn job, and handles port traffic in addition to any CSX interchange. This I believe is a 5 days a week job, but they often run it as D48 on the other two days, which would be Sunday and Monday. 

D11, D13, D40, and D31 are the Bluff, Whitehall/Fort Ed, Saratoga, and Albany locals, respectively. D13 goes north twice a week to the IP mill at Fort Ti, and south to Fort Ed whenever needed. There are a few other D-series locals that run to Fort Ed, Mohawk Yard, and elsewhere when needed.

650/651 are unit ethanol trains for the Port, and run when needed, usually twice a week but they should pick up over the winter. 

350 is a loaded grain train for the Port, but doesn't usually run as they combine it with 252/D45. The return loads are split up and rejoin at Montreal.\

I think that's about it! There are some interesting operations in Rouses Point that I can share if inquired apon.

 

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 2:18 PM

Thanks Harrison.  I assume "Bingo" = Binghamton ?

I would also be interested in hearing about Rouses Point, as long as it doesn't get you in trouble with the Border Patrol.

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Posted by Harrison on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 5:04 PM

MidlandMike

Thanks Harrison.  I assume "Bingo" = Binghamton ?

I would also be interested in hearing about Rouses Point, as long as it doesn't get you in trouble with the Border Patrol.

 

Bingo does mean Binghamton.

A daily operation in Rouses Point consists of four trains.

252 and 253 usually meet at Rouses Point, taking turns going through the scanner and coming off/onto the Lacolle sub. 

931 and 930 are interchanged to CN at Rouses Point. We have three tracks to work with in total.

The Controlled Siding is about 2.5 miles long, from CPC 188 and CPC 191 (south of the actual MP 191, which is the northernmost milepost. 

The "farm tracks" consist of two rather short sidings on the CP Lacolle sub north of the border point, but still in NY. 

The usual procedure is for CP to take 931 to the farm tracks, using one or both depending on the length. If it won't fit there, or there's another 931 sitting there, they leave it on the siding just south of CPC 191. During the night, CN brings 930 south as CN 528. They leave it wherever is available, and take 931, symboled as CN 529, north to Montreal. The next morning, a CP crew brings 930 south.

Lately CN has not had nearly enough crews, and so they've been about 5 days a week on average for getting trains to and from Montreal. Some days they just take one south, some just north, and some none at all. 

931/930 go through customs under CN control, even if CP brings them through the scanner to and from the farm tracks.

Hope this makes sense.

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