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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Sunday, June 17, 2018 11:03 AM

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Are the tanks moved on double stacks single tank containers?

Good question.  Most of them I've seen - and that's rarely - are pretty much just plain cylinders, without any domes.  
 
I'll post the question on another Forum I belong to - they differentiate box containers by the patterns of the side panels! and other seemingly minutiae - and let you know what I learn.  
 
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Posted by ericsp on Monday, June 18, 2018 2:17 AM

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Spirits from Wine to maximum proof alcahol were delivered to distributor/bottlers by rail in days gone by and may still be today although I don't know of any specific examples.

The Gallo winery in Modesto, CA ships a lot of wine by rail. However, it is shipped in insulated boxcars. Modesto & Empire Traction hands the cars off to BNSF at Empire. They then leave on the H MOD___. The train’s destination has changed over the years. Right now I think it only makes it as far as Barstow, CA before being broken up (H MODBAR).
 
I have heard Railex, now UP Cold Connect, carries wine (possibly in conjunction with Railex Wine Services, LLC, which was not bought by UP).
 
I think Biagi Brothers ships wine by rail for California wineries.

I have also seen tank cars (single compartment) placarded for non-denatured ethanol (1170) and for alcoholic beverages, not otherwise specified (3065). Some of those tank cars have CWCX reporting marks, which is either Canadiagua Wine Company or Cargill.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, June 18, 2018 4:22 PM

Not Cargill, Eric...The old CWCX cars have been owned by Walter Haffner Company (a lessor, presumably) since 2003.

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Monday, June 18, 2018 7:14 PM

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BaltACD

Spirits from Wine to maximum proof alcahol were delivered to distributor/bottlers by rail in days gone by and may still be today although I don't know of any specific examples.

 

 

The Gallo winery in Modesto, CA ships a lot of wine by rail. However, it is shipped in insulated boxcars. Modesto & Empire Traction hands the cars off to BNSF at Empire. They then leave on the H MOD___. The train’s destination has changed over the years. Right now I think it only makes it as far as Barstow, CA before being broken up (H MODBAR).
 
I have heard Railex, now UP Cold Connect, carries wine (possibly in conjunction with Railex Wine Services, LLC, which was not bought by UP).
 
I think Biagi Brothers ships wine by rail for California wineries.

I have also seen tank cars (single compartment) placarded for non-denatured ethanol (1170) and for alcoholic beverages, not otherwise specified (3065). Some of those tank cars have CWCX reporting marks, which is either Canadiagua Wine Company or Cargill.

 

The P&W is getting cryo cars of Gallo wine delivered to a Gallo warehouse in Worcester.

 

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Posted by allieq524 on Monday, June 18, 2018 8:37 PM

Tank cars with "domes", one two, three, maybe 4, or more, (ICC/DOT 103 or 104 of AAR 203 or 204) pretty much went out of service by the mid-1980s, replaced by DOT 111s or AAR 211s.  Comparmented cars usually carried/carry more than commodity  - in the "olden days", a compartmented car may have carried various petroleum products for local delivery - gasoline, kerosene, diesel fuel etc.  The current non-pressure (general service) tank cars do not have "domes" - as with pressure tank cars, those circular "things" on the top are "protective housings".  

A good reference for contemperary tank cars is the Association of American Railroads' Bureau of Explosives' "Field Guide to Tank Cars", 3rd Edition, 2017.  Web search aar.org/boe, look under "Reference Materials."

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, June 18, 2018 9:17 PM

I'm pretty sure Coors travels by rail...  In bulk.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Monday, June 18, 2018 9:34 PM

Here are the 3 responses I received to Gramp's question above - the short answer is yes: 

"At one time, both Sea Land and Puerto Rico Maritime had 35' multiple-tank tank contaioenrs. These were "half-high" containers.

"Here is a photo fof the Sea Land tank container I referred to...I saved this photo from a Facebook post...not my photo!" [sorry - I can't reproduce it here.]

"The word you're searching for is "multi-compartment"."

I did a search for "multi-compartment tank container" and found quite a few examples.  Here's a link to just one: http://peacock.eu/tank-container/t-14/ 

Good question - interesting answers.  Thanks for asking. 

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Posted by ericsp on Monday, June 18, 2018 11:14 PM

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Not Cargill, Eric...The old CWCX cars have been owned by Walter Haffner Company (a lessor, presumably) since 2003.

Thanks, that means RCP has some bad information.

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Posted by gntrain1 on Monday, June 18, 2018 11:15 PM

tree68

I'm pretty sure Coors travels by rail...  In bulk.

 

tree68

I'm pretty sure Coors travels by rail...  In bulk.

 Yes, Coors is brewed in Golden Colorado and shipped via insulated tank cars to bottling plants across the States. They have a pretty good sized rail facility at the brewery. Coors is brewed only at the one location and then shiped in tank cars to be bottled elsewhere, unlike the other big national beers (Bud, Miller, Pabst and all of their variations) that are brewed in multiple locations and bottled on the spot. This means Coors uses only one source of water which results in better quality control and a consistant flavor no matter where you drink it.

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Posted by Gramp on Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:47 PM

Paul_D_North_Jr

Here are the 3 responses I received to Gramp's question above - the short answer is yes: 

"At one time, both Sea Land and Puerto Rico Maritime had 35' multiple-tank tank contaioenrs. These were "half-high" containers.

"Here is a photo fof the Sea Land tank container I referred to...I saved this photo from a Facebook post...not my photo!" [sorry - I can't reproduce it here.]

"The word you're searching for is "multi-compartment"."

I did a search for "multi-compartment tank container" and found quite a few examples.  Here's a link to just one: http://peacock.eu/tank-container/t-14/ 

Good question - interesting answers.  Thanks for asking. 

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, June 21, 2018 8:25 PM

Just saw a three dome tank car on the Deshler 360 cam - modern construction, too.

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Posted by timbo on Monday, June 25, 2018 6:15 PM

Come to the Texas Eastman plant or UP yard in Longvie, TX. We regularly ship 3 and 4 compartment cars. some even on the BNSF.

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Posted by timbo on Monday, June 25, 2018 6:15 PM

Multiple 

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Posted by ROBERT HUNT on Monday, July 2, 2018 8:16 PM
We occasionally see multiple compartment tank cars here in the southeast on CSX and NS. They are for specialty chemicals that are not generally sold in quantities that would fill a larger car. The gentleman who lives near a large shipping source sees a mi-rad of different type multiple product cars.

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