Two longs, no shorts

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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 10:42 PM

No misleading info, the CCOR's last two editions just changed their number for the rule.

The vests/hi-vis clothing requirement came about a few years ago.  I don't think it's been 10 years yet, but time gets away from me.  It's been said the requirement comes via USDOT.  Originally wanting anyone near a public road (think railroad crossings) to wear one.  The railroads just took the idea and ran with it.

Inside the cab, buildings, or even walking from a crew van to/from a building (unless you have to cross tracks) you don't have to wear it.

When they first started requiring them, someone asked the superintendent if a high-vis cap could be used in lieu of the vest.  The answer was no, because not everyone wears caps.  But I guess everyone wears vests.  Vests can be replaced by shirts or coats that are at least ansi-2 standard.  I have a zippered sweat shirt and a winter coat for cooler weather.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, December 05, 2017 10:47 PM

      That reminds me of a time when one of our competitors in the lumber business gave out 500 florescent pink hats with their company name on them. Nice looking hats, but no one could wear them as they somehow attracted bees and wasps big time. 

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:42 AM

Paul of Covington

   I don't remember hearing it lately, but sometime ago I noticed on the Rochelle web cam that when workers were present some UP trains would give repeated quick double toots instead of ringing the bell.  

Odds are you're just not hearing the bell with the horn being sounded.  

NORAC calls for a long and a short repeated.  The rule shown earlier shows the crossing signal being blown in the same situation.

One person's long might be another person's short...

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 8:11 AM

Murphy Siding

      That reminds me of a time when one of our competitors in the lumber business gave out 500 florescent pink hats with their company name on them. Nice looking hats, but no one could wear them as they somehow attracted bees and wasps big time. 

 

Did anyone feel stung by your competitor?Smile

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Posted by jeffhergert on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 8:47 AM

tree68

 

 
Paul of Covington

   I don't remember hearing it lately, but sometime ago I noticed on the Rochelle web cam that when workers were present some UP trains would give repeated quick double toots instead of ringing the bell.  

 

Odds are you're just not hearing the bell with the horn being sounded.  

NORAC calls for a long and a short repeated.  The rule shown earlier shows the crossing signal being blown in the same situation.

One person's long might be another person's short...

 

When approaching and passing men and equipment, initially sound a long and a short and then intermittently two shorts.  The bell should be ringing, but they sometimes don't work properly. 

On modern engines the horn button/handle will also start the bell.  Some will ring once or twice then quit. Some will work about half way to a crossing/past men etc, then quit.  Some work fine at one crossing then have problems at the next.  Mechanical (real) bells sound better, but electronic bells are more reliable.

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 9:31 AM

Deggesty
Did anyone feel stung by your competitor?

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 9:50 AM
I have a flouresent orange ball cap that stopped wearing for the same reason. As long as I kept moving, mower, tractor, etc I was ok, but on foot and I became a target.
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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 11:41 AM

Mookie

 

 
Deggesty
Did anyone feel stung by your competitor?

 

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 10:46 PM

jeffhergert
On modern engines the horn button/handle will also start the bell. Some will ring once or twice then quit. Some will work about half way to a crossing/past men etc, then quit. Some work fine at one crossing then have problems at the next. Mechanical (real) bells sound better, but electronic bells are more reliable.

   After all these years, they can't build a reliable bell?   I don't think steam engines had this problem.   Unless the cord broke, maybe.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, December 07, 2017 6:52 AM

Paul of Covington
After all these years, they can't build a reliable bell?

One of our RS18u's has a regular air powered bell.  The other loco has an electric (not electronic) bell, but the actuator needs to be lubed every now and then or the bell just clicks...

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