I know why the train derailed! It's because they pulled up the tracks to Mission Hill 30 to 40 years ago! Obviously, the locomotive lost traction in the cornfield where the tracks used to be. http://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2017/06/27/no-injuries-derailment-empty-grain-train-near-gayville/431386001/
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Are you serious??? (I know - as a heart attack) Your paper is just about as on the ball as ours - maybe a little more....
She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw
I don't get the discombobulation?!?! Perhaps my befuddlement will permit the fog of perplexity to muddle my mystification and enhance my bewilderment with the resulting stupefaction of my trance.
Super -sluething is hard work. The only newspaper in the state that didn't say the derailment was on the line between Gayville and Mission Hill was the Yankton paper. Yankton is the next town past Gayville, perhaps 10 miles up the line, so I figured someone there was smart enough to catch the error. All the papers seem to have pulled it off the AP newswire. So I checked the AP newswire. AP attributes the information to the Yankton newspaper. Huh? I've given up on expecting accuracy in the newspaper. I'd be happy if someone just proofread their writing before hitting send.
zardoz I don't get the discombobulation?!?! Perhaps my befuddlement will permit the fog of perplexity to muddle my mystification and enhance my bewilderment with the resulting stupefaction of my trance.
Murphy Siding Few people could have made such a bold statement before the advent of spellcheck.
Few people could have made such a bold statement before the advent of spellcheck.
Since when has uff da been spelled Oof Duh????
- Erik
P.S. My grandmother was from Norway.
Murphy Siding Super -sluething is hard work. The only newspaper in the state that didn't say the derailment was on the line between Gayville and Mission Hill was the Yankton paper. Yankton is the next town past Gayville, perhaps 10 miles up the line, so I figured someone there was smart enough to catch the error. All the papers seem to have pulled it off the AP newswire. So I checked the AP newswire. AP attributes the information to the Yankton newspaper. Huh? I've given up on expecting accuracy in the newspaper. I'd be happy if someone just proofread their writing before hitting send.
We now have those same clowns pumping out Lazy, Fake News !
A lot of local and regional newspapers have much smaller staffs than they had 30-40 years ago. A lot of stories that were covered in more depth by local reporters and stringers are now covered by wire service reporters from somewhere else who have little local knowledge.
It's all about the bottom line as a lot of local papers no longer have local ownership. The local reporters are laid off and stories are picked up off the wire. Accuracy and depth go out the window as a result.
Canadian?
erikem Murphy Siding Few people could have made such a bold statement before the advent of spellcheck. Since when has uff da been spelled Oof Duh???? - Erik P.S. My grandmother was from Norway.
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erikem Murphy Siding Few people could have made such a bold statement before the advent of spellcheck. - Erik P.S. My grandmother was from Norway.
At least he didn't spell it "Oaf, duh".
(My ex-wife, my son and my grandkids now live in North Dakota and I swear they are all picking up a Norwegian accent!)
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
Semper Vaporo erikem Murphy Siding Few people could have made such a bold statement before the advent of spellcheck. - Erik P.S. My grandmother was from Norway. At least he didn't spell it "Oaf, duh". (My ex-wife, my son and my grandkids now live in North Dakota and I swear they are all picking up a Norwegian accent!)
CSSHEGEWISCH A lot of local and regional newspapers have much smaller staffs than they had 30-40 years ago. A lot of stories that were covered in more depth by local reporters and stringers are now covered by wire service reporters from somewhere else who have little local knowledge. It's all about the bottom line as a lot of local papers no longer have local ownership. The local reporters are laid off and stories are picked up off the wire. Accuracy and depth go out the window as a result.
calling your "Uff-da" and raising you a "Ya chure"!
U betcha!
Was it Milwaukee Road?
Yes, the derailment was on the old Dakota Southern/ Milwaukee Road State of South Dakota/ BNSF line. Mission Hill, on the other hand, was on the old Great Northern/ BN line that went from Sioux Falls to Yankton. I believe a portion of it was shared with CNW at one time. The whole thing was gone long before I moved to Sioux Falls in 1984.
wanswheel Was it Milwaukee Road?
blue streak 1 wanswheel Was it Milwaukee Road? Notice all the connections to stage coach lines. This may be an indication of what could happen to Amtrak today if it had these type connections country wide such as what is happening in California,
BN abandoned Sioux Falls to Irene August 11, 1981 (AB6_101x)
BN abandoned Irene to Yankton November 21, 1980 (AB6_88f)...this I believe included Mission Hills and Volin (CNW X-ing)...Towards the end, BN had trackage rights on MILW because of all the failing /dying railroad out there and Irene to Sioux Falls was toast, even though it outlasted Irene to Yankton.
Murphy Siding We'd have more stage coaches? Cool!I notice too, that half the stagecoaches go to Nebraska, which is accros the Missouri River, back before it was mellowed out with dams. It appears you'd get a ferry boat ride to go with your stage coach ride.
Trying to get my goat ? Point is Thruway connections including bus and especially minivan connections to Amtrak trains may work for total ridership, Did California say almost 50% of valley passngers rode thruways on one leg.
Incidentally and speaking of the Yankton paper, the Dakota Southern ad is one of several at the end an interesting book.
https://archive.org/stream/comingempirecomp00magu#page/n5/mode/2up
"McIntyre & Foote- Mining Engineers" at the back of the book as well and the Northern Pacific Railway nice ad.
South Dakota School of Mines has reciprocal agreements with our school and curriculum. Great school...long history.
wanswheel Incidentally and speaking of the Yankton paper, the Dakota Southern ad is one of several at the end an interesting book. https://archive.org/stream/comingempirecomp00magu#page/n5/mode/2up
Were the newsworkers hatched and bred with the other knuckleheads in Brandon?
mudchicken Were the newsworkers hatched and bred with the other knuckleheads in Brandon?
MC,
IMO, they were neither hatched nor bred. Birds have better brains. They slithered out from under a slimy rock. IMO, "newsworkers" is a polite term to pacify the uninformed who are comfortable living in the house of mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed...well, you know. The best term I have heard them described as is "content providers" which doesn't say much for their abilities to ferret out the truth, and those who are charged with editing their work are of no better quality.They still receive their pittance for providing misinformation.
True journalism died an unceremonious death decades ago. "Get something on line" is today's mantra. Whether the information is accurate or not is no longer of consequence to today's media. "If it bleeds, it leads" became popular in the seventies IIRC. Things went downhill from there. Now, it's whatever idiotic rambling a "reporter" can come up with. Oh, and don't forget to interview all the neighbors who really don't know what they saw.
Whether the content is of interest to those who like to hear information about the railroads or politics, the American population has been bamboozled into a state of narcosis by the media.
Color me skeptical, but I have, for some time, been of the belief the universities have been instrumental in the destruction of education in America. Not only in journalsm but in science and engineering as well. We have fallen behing nations like Japan and others in those endeavors. Someone needs to tell me again how well academics have helped improve America over the last fifty years. I won't paint all academics with the same brush because I personally know two PHD's who are down to earth. Those who lord their level of education over the masses are, in my mind, contemptible.
End of rant.
Norm
Who knew Brandon was the birthplace of Stephen A. Douglas?
https://tile.loc.gov/image-services/iiif/service:gmd:gmd375:g3754:g3754b:pm020200/full/pct:25/0/default.jpg
Excerpt from History of Rutland County, Vermont (1886)
On the 20th of October, 1784, the act of the Legislature confirming the organization of the town gave it the name of Brandon. Mr. John A. Conant is authority for the statement that the name, like that of Clarendon, Rutland, Leicester, Salisbury and other towns, was taken from an English nobleman, the Earl of Brandon, instead of being a corruption of Burnet town, as previous accounts have recorded…
Captain Thomas Tuttle came here about 1774 from Pittsford, although he had formerly lived in Tinmouth. He first settled on what has since been known as the Farrington farm, owned by Franklin Farrington ; his log house stood near the creek and the present road to Sudbury, a few rods from where the railroad crossing now is. The original survey contained one hundred and ten acres. His house was burnt by the Indians in 1779, as were also those of his son, and his son-in-law, Barker. He was killed in an attempt to escape from Fort Washington after the surrender of that stronghold to the British.
Joseph Barker came here before the war and settled on land then adjoining that of Captain Tuttle on the south. His house stood on the north side of the road to Sudbury, some distance from it, and near the present railroad crossing. He married Martha, daughter of Captain Thomas Tuttle. He was taken prisoner by the Indians in November, 1779, on their second hostile visit to Brandon. Feigning sickness and keeping the Indians awake until the latter part of the first night, when his guards were overcome by sleep, he effected his escape.
One thought out of left field since it is baseball season:
Might UP be supporting this, perhaps even with financing, as a way to access South Dakota grain traffic?
Right now BNSF and CP get the lion's share of grain traffic out of SD.
I don't know who connects to the Ellis & Eastern to the west of Ellis.
Perhaps I am overthinking if, but just a thought for the discussion hopper.
kgbw49 One thought out of left field since it is baseball season: Might UP be supporting this, perhaps even with financing, as a way to access South Dakota grain traffic? Right now BNSF and CP get the lion's share of grain traffic out of SD. I don't know who connects to the Ellis & Eastern to the west of Ellis. Perhaps I am overthinking if, but just a thought for the discussion hopper.
At Ellis the tracks just plain stop, never to be replaced. I-90 and several other obstacles including small towns mean that it will never be resurrected. There are no sizable elevators on the line. Ellis & Eastern’s parent company owns a ginormous rock quarry and mines pink Sioux Quartzite. Other than a few cars spotted at a couple of industries in town, there is no traffic beyond the rock. The whole idea baffles me. They may as well start planning an extension to the Powder River Basin. That makes as much sense.
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