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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:08 PM

Mookie

 

 
Murphy Siding
Baked beans? Fireworks?

 

phones, notebooks, wife?

 

 

Um.... huh?

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:53 PM

Murphy Siding

 

 
Mookie

 

 
Murphy Siding
Baked beans? Fireworks?

 

phones, notebooks, wife?

 

 

 

 

Um.... huh?

 

you know, cell phone & notebook batteries & Mookie when she has a short fuse - (which fortunately, has diminished with age...Zip it!

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Friday, May 19, 2017 6:32 AM
switch, Yes I do remember. For the milk cows we ran a chopper and wagon daily in a hay field. We also 'opened' the corn fields by chopping a path and feeding it to them, we had a pull behind corn picker, then as you discribed, chopped corn just as it started to change color to fill the silo for winter.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, May 19, 2017 7:05 PM

evening

Had some rain pass through Nw Ohio.Last night was a bad night for counties just south of us.Tomorrow we are helping nephew.Ns still had a coal train and some switching to do when I left work.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, May 19, 2017 8:23 PM

We had rain for much of the day today, with strong breezes and temperaures that didn't get out of the 40s.  Naturally, that would be the day that we had to (1) take two guided tours through Lilacia Park in the morning (doubly disappointing...the weather and the fact that the lilacs themselves are pretty well past their prime), and (2) use our tickets to the annual House Walk in the afternoon.  If I don't have a cold after this, I'll be amazed.  We've had about a half-inch so far today.

Yesterday was a day for train-riding and signal confusion.  I wanted to get a video of a scoot going through the crossovers at Grace.  This is complicated by the fact that I wanted to do it from the cab car.  So I was waiting in Glen Ellyn for a block signal to display an Advance Aproach Clear Fifty for a scoot to go through the crossover (this signal gives an Advance Approach for the control point; it has a second head that should have displayed a green under the flashing yellow).  What I was getting every time a scoot would come along was a clear signal, which suggested to me that the train would not be crossing over two signals ahead.  

Well, as it turns out, there's no such thing as an Advance Approach Clear Fifty.  I had finally given up on getting the signal I wanted, and went back home, only to find that the signal at Finley was displaying an Approach Clear Fifty (yellow over green), and I wasn't taking the video I wanted.  So, I'll do without the full sequence in my presentations next week.  

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, May 19, 2017 9:32 PM

81 degrees in Tucson, Talked out and headed home at  Oh-Dawn-Thirty.

Have to see if tree or LC or somebody in NY knows a good local railroad historian that can put on a 90-minute chat for a bunch of wannabe mudchickens.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, May 19, 2017 11:00 PM

Where?   Might have an idea or two...

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Posted by Mookie on Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:02 PM

It's the weekend and the forum is a tad on the spicey side!  Thumbs Up

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Posted by blhanel on Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:40 PM

MC's ride on the Iowa Northern that he enjoyed a week ago last Thursday...

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Posted by Norm48327 on Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:00 PM

Mookie

It's the weekend and the forum is a tad on the spicey side!  Thumbs Up

Mookie,

Without spice life would be dull and spaghetti wouldn't be Italian. Wink Just funnin' ya girl. I'm in one of those raucous moods tonight. Ignore me and carry on.

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Posted by Mookie on Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:46 PM

Norm, I can do a lot of things but ignoring you would not be one of them!  Shy

Weekends tend to be a little dull, so a little snap on the forum is always appreciated.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, May 20, 2017 10:27 PM

     Just got home from graduation. Youngest son now out of high school. 'Going to work the 12:00-2:00 shift at the senior all-nighter party.

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Posted by blhanel on Sunday, May 21, 2017 11:37 AM

Forgot to mention in my previous post that, later that same evening, Joanie and I became grandparents to twins.  Boy and girl, William Oliver and Margaret Joyce.  Babies, big brother Stuart, and parents are all doing well.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, May 21, 2017 2:29 PM

blhanel

Forgot to mention in my previous post that, later that same evening, Joanie and I became grandparents to twins.  Boy and girl, William Oliver and Margaret Joyce.  Babies, big brother Stuart, and parents are all doing well.

 

Cool deal! My niece and her husband stopped by Thursday night with their 9 month old twins. Cute boys and a lot of fun, but I remember taking care of one at a time was plenty of work.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, May 21, 2017 2:32 PM

Murphy Siding

     Just got home from graduation. Youngest son now out of high school. 'Going to work the 12:00-2:00 shift at the senior all-nighter party.

 

Happy to report that no one went in or out of door #8 between midnight and 2:00 this morning at the senior all-nighter. For fun. those on door patrol were given a deputy's badge with their name on it-sort of. It wasn't until afterward that my wife pointed out that my badge said 'Pam'.

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Posted by mudchicken on Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:02 PM

 (I can exhale now) and congrats to grandad and the expanding Tin-Shoes Nation!BowBowBow

-with having to figure out DropBox (it seems to have circumvented the mothership's stoopid pedantic IT bandwith & firewall issues - yay!) I might be able to post a picture of IANR's "portable forest" (patent pending/all rights reserved Smile, Wink & GrinSmile, Wink & GrinSmile, Wink & Grin) at Waterloo.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:49 PM

afternoon

On and off rain today.Csx picked up it's grain train west of town.They also have some tonka toys that need fixing in a siding too.Noticed plenty of lumber coming eastbound through Defiance.Also noticed an "Olivia" grain car.She is going back west.Maybe back to the co-op in Minnesota.Back to work tomorrow.Brian congrats on the family additions.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:33 PM

Hamfest is over - now to finish up with the paperwork (divvying up the money between two organizations, getting a couple of prizes sent out) and we'll be done until next year.

We didn't have the attendance the big Hamfest in Dayton (Xenia) did, but by the sounds of it, we had better weather.  Still, for a little event like ours 60+ was a good gate.

I did make a big purchase - a new radio.  Pretty expensive, but I could swing it, so I made the plunge.  Pretty spiffy - made a digital contact with it this afternoon.

Joe - we got your rain.  If it stays light (with no wind), no big deal, but sandbags are still big business here.  

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Posted by mudchicken on Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:49 PM

Tree: Asking NYPLS if they have a date set....May be Tuesday before I get an answer. (same group where you met me )

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Posted by mudchicken on Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:50 PM

Tree: Asking NYPLS if they have a date and place set....May be Tuesday before I get an answer. (same group where you met me )

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, May 21, 2017 5:02 PM

mudchicken

Tree: Asking NYPLS if they have a date and place set....May be Tuesday before I get an answer. (same group where you met me )

Rog - I can think of at least one person who may be able to speak - but an idea of exactly what you're looking for would be very useful.  Some of these folks can ramble...

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:40 PM

Hey, MC - I was just looking up the location of an auto accident that just occurred in a neighboring district.  When I looked at the topo map, I noted something marked "Cape Vincent Base East."  It's located on the old railroad bed (N 44 7' 41" W 76 17' 30").  A few hundred yards west is "Cape Vincent Base West," also on the old railroad bed.  The ROW wasn't exactly east-west there.  Is this some sort of surveying reference point?

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, May 22, 2017 10:50 AM

tree68

Hey, MC - I was just looking up the location of an auto accident that just occurred in a neighboring district.  When I looked at the topo map, I noted something marked "Cape Vincent Base East."  It's located on the old railroad bed (N 44 7' 41" W 76 17' 30").  A few hundred yards west is "Cape Vincent Base West," also on the old railroad bed.  The ROW wasn't exactly east-west there.  Is this some sort of surveying reference point?

 

Very Old Triangulation Station/ Observation Points! (see the triangle on west, these two also were a measured baseline for a possible trilateration check)

PJ0306  DESIGNATION -  CAPE VINCENT E BASE 1874
PJ0306  PID         -  PJ0306
PJ0306  STATE/COUNTY-  NY/JEFFERSON
PJ0306  COUNTRY     -  US
PJ0306  USGS QUAD   -  CAPE VINCENT NORTH (1980)

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HISTORY     - Date     Condition        Report By
PJ0306  HISTORY     - 1874     MONUMENTED       USLS
PJ0306  HISTORY     - 1940     SEE DESCRIPTION  CGS
PJ0306  HISTORY     - 1957     GOOD             IBC
PJ0306  HISTORY     - 1969     SEE DESCRIPTION  CGS
PJ0306  HISTORY     - 19990728 MARK NOT FOUND   USPSQD
 
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PJ0306'DESCRIBED BY US LAKE SURVEY 1874
PJ0306'ABOUT 2 MILES EAST OF THE TOWN OF CAPE VINCENT.  ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
PJ0306'THE NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROAD TRACK.  THE STATION IS 170 FEET
PJ0306'NORTHWEST OF A LEANING STONE POST.  110.7 FEET SOUTHWEST OF A STONE
PJ0306'POST.  172.6 FEET SOUTHEAST OF A STONE POST.  66.1 FEET EAST OF THE
PJ0306'CONCRETE SIGNPOST.  13.6 FEET SOUTH OF THE SOUTH RAIL OF THE TRACK.
PJ0306'AND 16.8 FEET NORTH OF THE SOUTH RIGHT - OF - WAY FENCE.
PJ0306'
PJ0306'STATION MARK--A BRASS PLUG IN A STONE 6 INCHES SQUARE, SET 3 FEET
PJ0306'BELOW THE GROUND SURFACE.
PJ0306
PJ0306                          STATION RECOVERY (1940)
PJ0306
PJ0306'RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1940
PJ0306'ABOUT 2 MILES EAST OF THE TOWN OF CAPE VINCENT.  ON THE SOUTH
PJ0306'SIDE OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL RAILROAD TRACK.  THE STATION IS
PJ0306'170 FEET NORTHWEST OF A LEANING STONE POST.  110.7 FEET
PJ0306'SOUTHWEST OF A STONE POST.  172.6 FEET SOUTHEAST OF A STONE
PJ0306'POST.  66.1 FEET EAST OF A CONCRETE SIGNPOST.  13.6 FEET SOUTH
PJ0306'OF THE SOUTH RAIL OF THE TRACK.  AND 16.6 FEET NORTH OF THE
PJ0306'SOUTH RIGHT-OF-WAY FENCE.
PJ0306'
PJ0306'STATION MARK--A BRASS PLUG IN A STONE 6 INCHES SQUARE, SET 3
PJ0306'FEET BELOW THE GROUND SURFACE.
PJ0306
PJ0306                          STATION RECOVERY (1957)
PJ0306
PJ0306'RECOVERY NOTE BY INTERNATIONAL BOUNDARY COMMISSION 1957 (NWS)
PJ0306'IN 1957 THE RAILROAD RAILS AND REFERENCE POSTS HAD BEEN REMOVED.
PJ0306
PJ0306                          STATION RECOVERY (1969)
PJ0306
PJ0306'RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1969 (AJR)
PJ0306'A SEARCH OF THE AREA WAS MADE, THE RAILROAD TRACK HAS BEEN
PJ0306'REMOVED, AND THE TRACK BED IS OVERGROWN WITH BRUSH.
PJ0306'
PJ0306'REFERENCE AND STATION MARK ARE PRESUMED TO BE LOST.
PJ0306
PJ0306                          STATION RECOVERY (1999)
PJ0306
PJ0306'RECOVERY NOTE BY US POWER SQUADRON 1999
PJ0306'MARK NOT FOUND.

-The mark may still be there, somebody will have to do a detailed recovery effort to prove it has been destroyed by the dreaded yellow machines or just buried. (a surveyor scavenger hunt, if you will... I have found dozens of NGS benchmarks reported as lost or destroyed over the years. I found two in Nebraska that were never officially published and presumed gone.)

 

 

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, May 22, 2017 11:46 AM

Very cool.  I won't be going out to look for them....  Seems like you'd have to do a lot of digging, even if the landmarks cited were still there.

A regional waterline was installed using the old railroad bed (Rome & Watertown, then Rome, Watertown & Odgensburg, then NYC)- you can see the pump station just west of the "West Base."   The line was trenched right down the old ROW, so even if the monument was still buried at the time, it may not be where it's supposed to be - assuming that it was dug up and simply went back in the ditch and isn't sitting on someone's mantle...

Thanks!  Learn something new every day!

 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, May 22, 2017 2:28 PM

afternoon

Sunshine today.Ns had a truck go east.Do not know what they were checking on but it wasn't a yellow sperry truck. They have loads and empties to switch around uptown.That will be a fun job today.They still haven't installed the new crossing yet.It has been getting seasoned since last summer.Going to help nephew finish up some things tomorrow.Guessers say rain will stay away.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, May 22, 2017 5:47 PM

tree68

Very cool.  I won't be going out to look for them....  Seems like you'd have to do a lot of digging, even if the landmarks cited were still there.

A regional waterline was installed using the old railroad bed (Rome & Watertown, then Rome, Watertown & Odgensburg, then NYC)- you can see the pump station just west of the "West Base."   The line was trenched right down the old ROW, so even if the monument was still buried at the time, it may not be where it's supposed to be - assuming that it was dug up and simply went back in the ditch and isn't sitting on someone's mantle...

Thanks!  Learn something new every day!

 

 

Just for grins and giggles:

 

PJ0310  DESIGNATION -  CAPE VINCENT W BASE 1874
PJ0310  PID         -  PJ0310
PJ0310  STATE/COUNTY-  NY/JEFFERSON
PJ0310  COUNTRY     -  US
PJ0310  USGS QUAD   -  CAPE VINCENT NORTH (1980)

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PJ0310_MARKER: Z = SEE DESCRIPTION
PJ0310_SETTING: 80 = SET IN A BOULDER
PJ0310_STABILITY: C = MAY HOLD, BUT OF TYPE COMMONLY SUBJECT TO
PJ0310+STABILITY: SURFACE MOTION
PJ0310
PJ0310  HISTORY     - Date     Condition        Report By
PJ0310  HISTORY     - 1874     MONUMENTED       USLS
PJ0310  HISTORY     - 1940     SEE DESCRIPTION  CGS
PJ0310  HISTORY     - 1957     GOOD             IBC
PJ0310  HISTORY     - 1969     SEE DESCRIPTION  CGS
PJ0310  HISTORY     - 19990728 MARK NOT FOUND   USPSQD
PJ0310
PJ0310                          STATION DESCRIPTION
PJ0310
PJ0310'DESCRIBED BY US LAKE SURVEY 1874
PJ0310'NEAR THE TOWN OF CAPE VINCENT, NEW YORK.  ABOUT 1/4 MILE EAST OF CAPE
PJ0310'VINCENT ELEVATOR.  JUST EAST OF THE RAILROAD YARD LIMITS AND ON THE
PJ0310'NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACK.  THE STATION IS ABOUT 335 FEET EAST OF THE
PJ0310'YARD LIMITS SIGN, 99.7 FEET EAST OF A DRILL HOLE IN A STONE, 71.2 FEET
PJ0310'NORTH OF A STONE POST, 99.1 FEET WEST OF A STONE POST, 19.8 FEET NORTH
PJ0310'OF NORTH RAIL OF TRACK, AND 54 FEET SOUTH OF NORTH RIGHT - OF - WAY
PJ0310'FENCE.
PJ0310'
PJ0310'STATION MARK--A TRIANGULAR BRASS PLUG IN A STONE POST 6 INCHES SQUARE,
PJ0310'SET ABOUT 2 FEET BELOW THE GROUND SURFACE.
PJ0310
PJ0310                          STATION RECOVERY (1940)
PJ0310
PJ0310'RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1940
PJ0310'NEAR THE TOWN OF CAPE VINCENT, NEW YORK.  ABOUT 1/4 MILE EAST
PJ0310'OF CAPE VINCENT ELEVATOR.  JUST EAST OF THE RAILROAD YARD LIMITS
PJ0310'AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TRACK.  THE STATION IS ABOUT 335
PJ0310'FEET EAST OF THE YARD LIMITS SIGN, 99.7 FEET EAST OF A DRILL
PJ0310'HOLE IN STONE, 71.2 FEET NORTH OF A STONE POST, 99.1 FEET WEST
PJ0310'OF A STONE POST, 19.8 FEET NORTH OF NORTH RAIL OF TRACK, AND
PJ0310'54 FEET SOUTH OF NORTH RIGHT-OF-WAY FENCE.
PJ0310'
PJ0310'STATION MARK--A TRIANGULAR BRASS PLUG IN A STONE POST 6 INCHES
PJ0310'SQUARE, SET ABOUT 2 FEET BELOW THE GROUND SURFACE.
PJ0310
PJ0310                          STATION RECOVERY (1957)
PJ0310
PJ0310'RECOVERY NOTE BY INTERNATIONAL BOUNDARY COMMISSION 1957 (NWS)
PJ0310'IN 1957 THE RAILROAD RAILS HAD BEEN REMOVED.
PJ0310
PJ0310                          STATION RECOVERY (1969)
PJ0310
PJ0310'RECOVERY NOTE BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1969 (AJR)
PJ0310'A THOROUGH SEARCH OF THE AREA WAS MADE.  ALL REFERENCES HAVE
PJ0310'BEEN DESTROYED, THE TRACK HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THE TRACK BED IS
PJ0310'BECOMING PART OF THE LANDSCAPE.  THE STATION SHOULD BE
PJ0310'CONSIDERED LOST.
PJ0310
PJ0310                          STATION RECOVERY (1999)
PJ0310
PJ0310'RECOVERY NOTE BY US POWER SQUADRON 1999
PJ0310'MARK NOT FOUND.

 

 

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, May 22, 2017 6:16 PM

I suspect Sir Chicken has all his information memorized.... just suspect, mind you....

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, May 22, 2017 7:20 PM

Mookie

I suspect Sir Chicken has all his information memorized.... just suspect, mind you....

 

You may be right.  If not, he sure knows where to look...
 
Speaking of looking - an aunt died over the winter.  One of my cousins is going throught what she left behind (and her older sister, who died several years ago).  One item is a single share - $5.00 - with a local dairy cooperative.  It was purchased by my grandfather in 1952.  I've agreed to see if it's worth anything at all.  At this point I'm just trying to figure out what happened to the co-operative.  Did it go belly-up?  Or was it folded into another co-operative, and maybe several more beyond that?
 
I have a suspicion it may be worth more as a keepsake than as a source of money.  Just inflation brings that $5.00 up to about $45 - which would be well less than $5.00 for each of the folks who should get a portion of it...

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Posted by rvos1979 on Monday, May 22, 2017 9:25 PM

[quote user="Murphy Siding"]

BOB WITHORN

 

 
tree68

 

 
Murphy Siding
I got paid $10 a day,

 

We got a buck an hour - other farmers paid a penny a bale.  I was actually on vacation - the $19 I made seemed like gold.

Sometimes we loaded directly off the baler - easy.  Other times we had to load off the ground.  Trying to get a bale up 4 layers high on the wagon was a chore.

Unloaded to an elevator - I never had the "opportunity" to work in the mow.  Thank goodness...

 

Tree, you missed so much not going up there. We NORMALLY baled directly to the wagon and I was ok until the wagon was just about full. It took all I had to hook the last few bales off the baler and lift them up, stack them under myself, repeat until loaded. Really a challange when we turned just as a bale was ready to come off, dead lift a 50 lb bale straight up with one arm!!  When we finished the field, I got the pleasure of going up in the mow to catch the bales 'thrown' up from the conveyor by the hired hands so I could stack them all over again.   I was also the one that got to cut the field then rake it over twice before we ever started baling.  Darn hard work but very fond memories of the farm in Romeo, Mi.

 

 

ADD on:   My brother and I got $25.00/week, for 12 hours/day and 7 days/week. Do not understand how he got the same, all he did was help unload the wagons onto the conveyor.  Grandma's favorite, and I'm the middle child I guess.

 

 

 

We also had the thrill of being in western South Dakota that has rattlesnakes. We'd usually disturb a couple of rattlers every time we baled hay. The farmer was a tough guy. All you had to do was yell “snake!” He’d stop the tractor, grab his shovel and kill the rattler. Oddly, the man scared to death of mice.

 

 

I guess I was lucky when it came to baling hay, our square baler had an ejector on it, and I was the one who ran the baler. I did have to usually pack the last wagon of the day, though:  kick in about 20-25 bales, stop and climb into hayrack to stack, kick in another batch, and repeat until full, or I ran out of hay in the field..........

Randy Vos

"Ever have one of those days where you couldn't hit the ground with your hat??" - Waylon Jennings

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:35 AM

Mookie

I suspect Sir Chicken has all his information memorized.... just suspect, mind you....

 

After years of brain damage, knows where to look (saving the surviving brain cells for further abuse)

Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west

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