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BaltACD Isn't synthetic rubber composed of a lot of petroleum dirived compounds? Plastics use petroleum in their manufacture. The fractional distillation of the petroleum refining process has portions of refined petroleum being used in many manufacturing processes that one would not consider petroleum being involved in.
Isn't synthetic rubber composed of a lot of petroleum dirived compounds? Plastics use petroleum in their manufacture. The fractional distillation of the petroleum refining process has portions of refined petroleum being used in many manufacturing processes that one would not consider petroleum being involved in.
Syntehetic rubber is indeed composed of petroleum products, espcially if your definition of petroleum includes natural gas and natural gas liquids. The Time-Life Science Library book, Giant Molecules, has good descriptions of the feedstocks for various polymers (i.e. plastics) and was written by someone very well versed in the field.
Most plastics are essentially hydrocarbons, often with other elements such as nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine or chlorine added. Some exceptions include Teflon (PTFE) where the hydrogen has been completely replaced by fluorine and silicone where silicon replaces much of the carbon.
Backshop tree68 BaltACD Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think. I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black. Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons). Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too. The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles. You are correct. It seems like every loss of a laker involves sloppy welding procedures where the fire then spreads to the unloading conveyor belt, which runs the length of the hold in a tunnel above the keel.
tree68 BaltACD Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think. I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black. Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons). Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too. The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles.
BaltACD Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think.
I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black.
Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons). Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too. The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles.
You are correct. It seems like every loss of a laker involves sloppy welding procedures where the fire then spreads to the unloading conveyor belt, which runs the length of the hold in a tunnel above the keel.
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BaltACDBlack smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think.
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Five photos & some commentary on the fire:
https://www.starbeacon.com/news/large-crowds-drawn-to-watch-ship-fire-in-ashtabula-harbor/article_96bc25b4-e2ff-11ee-9781-93dd2f347cbf.html
Ironic that the Cuyahoga caught fire...again. Rather like its namesake.
Very sad to see an old ore boat destroyed by fire. Ashtabula is where I boarded the Str. Reiss Brothers in 1967 for a summer as a deckhand.
That looks like typical building-fire dark smoke to me. Oil fire would be lavish inky carbon black shot with hot-carbon orange.
I presume the superstructure never had that lemon-oiled wood paneling that has caused many disastrously-progressing fires on liners...
NDGFYI. Fire onboard M/V Cuyahoga in Ashtabula. https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca/news/niagara-region/oldest-operating-canadian-laker-on-great-lakes-catches-fire-in-ohio-port/article_1e1ae6f2-0dcb-578c-af44-0e0b6bd5dc0b.html Thank You.
Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think.
FYI.
CN referred to their commuter tank engines as the "Suburban type".
http://www.cwrailway.ca/cnrha.ca/CN%20steam%20drawings/x%20class/x-10-a.jpg
The class X-10-a 4-6-4T engines were superheated and lasted until the very end of CN steam, 49 was actually the last steam locomotive to be overhauled at Point St Charles, sharing the shop floor with diesels in 1957. But they were not the only 'road' tank engines CN owned. There were a few old Grand Trunk 4-4-2T's that survived after the CN merger, the final one being scrapped in 1931 after spending its later years on the short Thousand Islands Railway.
http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cnr_steam2/49.htm
http://www.cwrailway.ca/cnrha.ca/CN%20steam%20drawings/x%20class/x-9-a.jpg
http://www.cwrailway.ca/cnrha.ca/CN%20steam%20drawings/x%20class/x-8-a.jpg
https://www.steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=Canada&wheel=4-4-2&railroad=cnr#6617
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CSSHEGEWISCHDefinitely not a Hudson, perhaps it's a Baltic?
As you probably know, the 'name' conventions for wheel arrangement predate the Whyte system. I am not familiar with names for tank-engine configurations other than generic terms like Forney. That engine is a Ten-Wheeler with a tank that has a two-axle truck under it.
A special case, where the guiding from the two trucks is important, would be the German bidirectional high-speed engines (one of which was rebuilt into 18 201). Those are 4-6-4T and 4-6-6T. Unfortunately we've lost most if not all our European specialists, so I don't know if the former would be called a Baltic or not. Did B&A have a type name for their 4-6-6Ts?
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Definitely not a Hudson, perhaps it's a Baltic?
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NDGCN 1521. Scrap Line. This one made it. Belpaire Firebox. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lnv5zit0S7I/VKNhdaaeRkI/AAAAAAAABT4/vuqVXvtoO9k/s1600/Turcot%2BYard%2B1960%2B.jpg We were there, not in photo. Over 100 Locomotives. Thank You.
Brakeman looks very young!
tree68Saw a story about a driver in the Netherlands, which apparently loves its speed bumps. So the story went, a fellow in a larger vehicle was being tailgated by a driver in a low slung sports car. Driver of larger vehicle knew that there were gaps put in the speed bumps specifically to allow busses to pass without bouncing the passengers around. Cars had to run at least one side of their wheels over the bumps. First driver knew such a bump was coming up, and that he could pass through unmolested. Tailgater would not be so lucky. First driver got right up to speed and zipped through. Driver of sports car bounced off the roof of his car. And thereafter kept his distance...
So the story went, a fellow in a larger vehicle was being tailgated by a driver in a low slung sports car. Driver of larger vehicle knew that there were gaps put in the speed bumps specifically to allow busses to pass without bouncing the passengers around. Cars had to run at least one side of their wheels over the bumps.
First driver knew such a bump was coming up, and that he could pass through unmolested.
Tailgater would not be so lucky.
First driver got right up to speed and zipped through. Driver of sports car bounced off the roof of his car. And thereafter kept his distance...
Must not have had his seat belt fastened.
Saw a story about a driver in the Netherlands, which apparently loves its speed bumps.
NDGRear End Collision. https://globalnews.ca/news/10302251/train-derailment-revelstoke-2-injured/
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