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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 12:46 PM

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OT.
 
For the Engineers.
 
Changing a Crankshaft.
 
 
Thank You.

At least they aren't putting out the false narrative that passengers will be boarding in two hours and the clock is ticking!

Watched another video on building a marine diesel - that video stated that the 'bottom end' (crankshaft and main bearings) were supposed to be good for 35 years without maintenance - don't know if I believe that!

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Posted by NDG on Sunday, August 25, 2019 10:08 AM
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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, August 25, 2019 12:36 PM

NDG -- spotted that International right away! My 2 were both green but one that very light colour green and the other darker shade green but 2 tone with cream. Excellent vehicles, miss driving them. Terrible gas mileage, wonder what it would cost on a fill today. I think there was more steel in just one door than in today's cars. 

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Posted by AgentKid on Sunday, August 25, 2019 2:34 PM

A while back we were talking about the type of Water Car that brought us water to the Irricana station. The following picture in the same collection is very similar to what we had:

https://search.nbca.unbc.ca/uploads/r/northern-bc-archives-special-collections/1/2/a/12aab18b6a7ef450d48434dfeae505685e327a697725f1f82ebe1fe1f04dd7b5/2013_6_36_1_032_26.jpg

Note the size of the tank compared to the low end of the caboose. That is one old tank. Also it seems to have some sort of arrangement for a hose in the box between the trucks. The hose on our tank rode laying straight on a running board running along the side of the of the tank.

That was a pretty good representation. Thanks.

Bruce

 

So shovel the coal, let this rattler roll.

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"O. S. Irricana"

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, August 25, 2019 4:22 PM

AgentKid
A while back we were talking about the type of Water Car that brought us water to the Irricana station. The following picture in the same collection is very similar to what we had:

Visible on the right end of the tank:  "Fire Car."  That might explain all the toolboxes.

That would certainly help make the case for the similarity.

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Posted by NDG on Sunday, August 25, 2019 5:24 PM
TOFC. Tender on Flat Car.
 
Usually, when they made a Water Car out of a Tender Tank, they took the trucks off.
 
 
From This Site.
 
 
Another view of Oil Bunker Water Car.
 
 
 
Tender w Pantograph? Where is THIS tender, Now?
 
 
CN.
 
 
Left Hand Double Track Plow. Used on Opposite Side Running Double Track.
 
 
 
This is a Work Train Ballasting new Pecten Spur South from Brocket, Alberta 1957.
 
 
Steam was ALMOST gone. No Steam Facilities for WATER installed on Pecten Branch, ergo Water Cars.
 
 
Steam lasted until late 1959 out of Lethbridge, and there is a view of ' Last Steam Engine leaving Lethbridge ' on Lethbridge Viaduct.
 
Brocket, AB. Junction Pecten Spur. Station had Oil Bunker from Steam Locomotive for Station Fuel.
 
 
FWIW.
 
When CPR took the RDC off c. 1964, Notices were put up at all Stations and Agencies. Time came, and went, and so did the Budd.
 
About a month after ' The Last Run ' A group of ' Locals ' showed up and were going to take the Train into town to get more booze.
 
The Agent told them the Train was not running anymore.
 
They said the CPR was lying to them, once AGAIN!
 
The Agent told them to take a walk.
 
They beat the Hell out of him.
 
He Bid Out to Fort MacLeod to finish his career on the Telegraphers' List.
 
FYI.
 
 
Time for a trip to Starbux on my 4-8-2 bike before the snow flies. 8 miles yesterday.  There is a Bear down there.
 
The Kat and I ' went our separate ways ' It was amicable with no remorse, HE got everything, and I have to go clean the litter box twice a week.
 
Thank You.

 

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Posted by NDG on Monday, August 26, 2019 9:32 AM
FYI.
 
Wheel Profiling.  CN Spadina Roundhouse, Toronto. 1966.
 
When the wheels on yard engines had to be profiled, a cutter was applied in place of a brake shoe and the locomotive moved along the track pulled by a cable from a steam Lidgerwood winch operated on Roundhouse steam.
 
 
The Lidgerwood car can be seen to the right of the reefers in the distance and the groove worn by it's cable in center of track.
 
Curled blue cuttings would be left along each rail.
 
The locomotive would be moved out, drawing the cable with it, then pulled back for the turning.
 
Thank You. 
 

 

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, August 26, 2019 12:18 PM

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Wheel Profiling.  CN Spadina Roundhouse, Toronto. 1966.

It was my understanding that they might also put the "red slippers" on a working loco to work out small flat spots.

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Posted by NDG on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 2:44 PM
In 'Trains' Sixty years Ago.
 
 
Back in 1959? we travelled to Old Orchard and Portland, Maine and visited the B&M Roundhouse in Portland when there was a 2-8-0 inside and new low nose EMD power without.
 
On the return it was decided to visit the Mount Washington Cog Railway, and this was done.
 
Old  " Peppersass " was on display at the Station.
 
However, I had just read about it's last fateful trip in 'Trains' a few weeks before and adamantly REFUSED to ride the train to the Summit.
 
Interesting, none the less.
 
Thank You.

 

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Posted by SD70Dude on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:53 PM

Greetings from Alberta

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Posted by Miningman on Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:39 AM

That $650,000 figure is nutty. Sounds like a problem though. The St. Thomas guys would take good care of it but sounds like there are a few that care enough in Guelph. I'll keep at watch out for developments on this. Ulrich lives there, maybe he can keep us updated and shed more light. 

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Posted by NDG on Thursday, August 29, 2019 1:35 AM
Another.
 
CN 6712.
 
After years of faithful Service. 1914.
 
 
Safely Preserved, under tarps, City Works Yard.
 
 
Then the Bean Counters arrived.
 
 
Maybe better, after all, than rusting and mossing away in a Park.
 
Lets built a Hulett, and put it in a Park, TOO!
 
Acetylene may be more merciful? After All?
 
Thank You.

 

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:41 AM

This is the thread to mention that work is being done again on the HMS Terror site.  (Steve and others: this is notable because it is equipped with a refitted Stephenson locomotive as its engine, suitable for restoration as a locomotive)

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/inside-the-wreckage-of-the-doomed-hms-terror-archaeological-dive-reveals-stunning-look-at-the-ruins-of-a-franklin-expedition-ship-frozen-in-time-underwater-nearly-200-years-after-its-entire-crew-vanished/ar-AAGsEF8

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Posted by Miningman on Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:40 AM

It's a heck of a discovery and was a goal of the previous Harper government. The Prime Minister Stephen Harper himself was keenly interested.

What I did not know or realize is that the Inuit have half ownership. Interesting.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Friday, August 30, 2019 8:24 PM

I always think of Stan Rogers whenever the Franklin Expedition comes up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVY8LoM47xI

The onboard desalination plants for supplying the steam engines would have produced water with considerable lead content, due to lead piping and solder.  This water would have also been consumed by the crews, and it is speculated that this was the source of much of their lead poisoning, rather than the tinned food.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Friday, August 30, 2019 8:30 PM

Something else that I came across today, how many of us recognize which wreck these are from:

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, August 30, 2019 9:02 PM

Got to be Hinton, Alberta.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Friday, August 30, 2019 9:21 PM

Yes indeed.  That crumpled heap used to be SD40 5104, it was the second unit on the freight train.

Now a follow up question, if 5104 had been leading the freight train the accident likely would not have happened.  Why?

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Posted by Overmod on Friday, August 30, 2019 9:55 PM

SD70Dude
if 5104 had been leading the freight train the accident likely would not have happened.  Why?

No comfort cab would mean less chance of falling asleep!

(Seriously ... alerter present on SD40 but not on that particular GP-38-2W)

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Posted by SD70Dude on Friday, August 30, 2019 10:00 PM

Yep.  Ironically, a lot of crews disliked having the GP38-2W's as road leaders, the extra weight on a 4-axle unit made them ride rough and hunt at speed.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Friday, August 30, 2019 10:40 PM

NDG
Another.
 
CN 6712.
 
After years of faithful Service. 1914.
 
 
Safely Preserved, under tarps, City Works Yard.
 
 
Then the Bean Counters arrived.
 
 
Maybe better, after all, than rusting and mossing away in a Park.
 
Lets built a Hulett, and put it in a Park, TOO!
 
Acetylene may be more merciful? After All?
 
Thank You.

So sad about 6712.  But she was not the only CN electric to survive after the end.

What is going on in this first photo?  (hint, it has everything to do with the second one)

I am really surprised that this event didn't get more (any) coverage on the NewsWire and RYPN.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, August 31, 2019 6:53 AM

It may have been missed since CN's suburban electrification was small and not very well known.  Many of us may have been aware of its existence but knew very little about it.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by NDG on Saturday, August 31, 2019 9:35 AM

 

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It would be nice to think that the ELECTRIC is easing down on the critter to make a joint, Mais I doubt it.
 
My ' First Train Ride ' was behind one of these back in the Forties, then behind Steam for the rest of the trip.
 
We went down to the Station by Streetcar.
 
Where has civilization gone? as someone else quoted?
 
Saw Poor old Maude again the other day.
 
So preservable, So vulnerable.
 
Thank You.

 

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Posted by NDG on Saturday, August 31, 2019 10:28 AM

 

Something else that I came across today, how many of us recognize which wreck these are from:

 

A very dark day.

There would be others.

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, August 31, 2019 11:46 AM

NDG
Something else that I came across today, how many of us recognize which wreck these are from: 

A very dark day.

There would be others. 

Thank You.

As long as man moves about the planet by any means - there will be accidents.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Saturday, August 31, 2019 6:20 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH

It may have been missed since CN's suburban electrification was small and not very well known.  Many of us may have been aware of its existence but knew very little about it.

The photos are in Ottawa and were taken in mid July, as the Bytown Railway Society was finally moving some of their collection into new digs at the Canada Science & Technology Museum.  The 'critter' is Thurso & Nation Valley #10, a GE 50-tonner with Cummins engines.

Here is the link to a photo album from that day, you will need to log in to Facebook first to view it:

https://www.facebook.com/philip.jago.9/media_set?set=a.1488479421294272&type=3

For those who are not on Facebook, a CBC article with a short video, and a few more choice photos from the album:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/moving-day-museum-trains-1.5224658

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Posted by NDG on Monday, September 02, 2019 12:52 AM
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Posted by NDG on Monday, September 02, 2019 5:37 PM
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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Monday, September 02, 2019 8:25 PM

They state the cars were leaking "OCTANE" which I thought was a knock rating for fuel. Elsewhere they state "STYRENE". Its tough being a reporter. And trying to get facts. 

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, September 02, 2019 9:16 PM

"Octane" is a hydrocarbon with eight carbons in the backbone.  It doesn't require those carbons to be linear, though: the more 'globular' the molecule the more likely it is to combust quickly without detonation; (2,2,4)-trimethylpentane is '100" on the research octane number scale.   (Amusingly, straight-chain octane actually is worse than heptane in detonating, its "research octane number" is -20!)

"Styrene" is a monomer used to create plastics like polystyrene, 'Styrofoam', and ABS.  It has eight carbons, like octane, but there most of the organic similarities end: its formula is C6H5CH=CH2, a substituted benzene ring that preserves resonance structure through the substituent.

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