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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:29 PM

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In a related note, saw a northbound container train on the Florida East Coast passing through Fort Pierce with two passenger cars attached to the rear.  I believe one was a boat-tailed stainless steel observation car.

Most likely the FEC's own private cars.  They use them on their Santa Train.

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Posted by DENNIS COLLINS on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:33 AM

In a related note, saw a northbound container train on the Florida East Coast passing through Fort Pierce with two passenger cars attached to the rear.  I believe one was a boat-tailed stainless steel observation car.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 7:06 AM

At least one of the GP40's that they were using for motive power turned up at NRE after operations ceased.

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Posted by D.Carleton on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:28 PM

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ahh, what are those? 

American Orient Express  was a land cruise outfit more or less styled on the European version.  I'm sure it will pop up on Google.

The blue and cream(?) car certainly looks like it came from AOE. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Orient_Express

Following its demise the equipment was scattered to the four winds. There's no telling where the cars will turn up.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 6:41 PM

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ahh, what are those?

American Orient Express  was a land cruise outfit more or less styled on the European version.  I'm sure it will pop up on Google.

The blue and cream(?) car certainly looks like it came from AOE.

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Posted by CBT on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 6:28 PM

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Ex-American Orient express cars maybe?

 

ahh, what are those?

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Posted by CBT on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 6:28 PM

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Ex-American Orient express cars maybe?

 

ahhhh, what are those?

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 6:08 PM

Ex-American Orient express cars maybe?

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Posted by CBT on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:22 PM
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Posted by zugmann on Monday, March 14, 2016 8:53 PM

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It is sometimes difficult to find a way to connect and secure an EOT to a passenger car.

Been there; done that.  Took a bit of creative rule-complaince to get those cars to the yard  (it was the last stop of the night, and time was getting thin, so we jsut grabbed them on the tail...had to improvise when the EOT wouldn't fit under the diaphragm).

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Posted by CBT on Monday, March 14, 2016 8:32 PM

Thanks for everything guys. I don't think they were MOW camp cars but they could of been. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, March 14, 2016 8:10 PM

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   What is the reason for placing this car behind the passenger cars?

It is sometimes difficult to find a way to connect and secure an EOT to a passenger car.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, March 14, 2016 7:32 PM

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When passenger cars are transported, they typically seem to be handled at the end of the train but with one other car placed behind. So this sounds pretty typical for such a movement.

   What is the reason for placing this car behind the passenger cars?

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, March 14, 2016 7:06 PM

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Any chance they were NS MOW camp cars?

Staying, as I do, in an old CR camp car (now privately owned), when working on the railroad, I can say that with the full complement of eight people, it would be no fun...

All it takes is one person...

I would opine, though, that while the cars seen may be MOW, if they were the kind of camp car I use, they'd be "mistaken" for containers on flat cars.  

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, March 14, 2016 5:43 PM

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Hi, I was watching the roanoke can and I saw a freight train. But it have two (on a bit graffitied) passenger cars, then a box car, then the end? I was just wondering what they could of been for?

thanks,

     Chris

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I'm pretty sure they were going away from the museum, but im not 100%  sure. I think they were mostly white too. 

Thanks,

      Chris

Any chance they were NS MOW camp cars?
 

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Posted by dubch87 on Monday, March 14, 2016 4:08 PM

CBT

Hi, I was watching the roanoke can and I saw a freight train. But it have two (on a bit graffitied) passenger cars, then a box car, then the end? I was just wondering what they could of been for?

thanks,

     Chris 

CBT

I'm pretty sure they were going away from the museum, but im not 100%  sure. I think they were mostly white too. 

Thanks,

      Chris

 

 
Any chance they were NS MOW camp cars?

   

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Posted by CBT on Monday, March 14, 2016 1:59 PM

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Lately, also there have been moves with a single unit for power,and a hopper-style car, followed by a single Office Car on the rear. No idea of what they might have been studying or testing(?).

 

One of these trains was mentioned by me on the Rochelle Web Cam thread. It seems it is a rail test car being tested for use by BNSF. Someone even found a video of it.

Bruce

 

 

I am active on the Rochelle webcam thread and saw the posts about the geometry cars. These cars I saw were white and red and almost looked like one of the southern pacific paint schemes.

     Thanks,

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Posted by cv_acr on Monday, March 14, 2016 1:11 PM

When passenger cars are transported, they typically seem to be handled at the end of the train but with one other car placed behind. So this sounds pretty typical for such a movement.

I did not see the cars mentioned, but they could be a) new cars heading somewhere b) old cars sold to a new owner heading somewhere c) older cars heading to a museum (basically same case as b).

Someone mentioned a nearby museum and the fact that in the video they might appear to be going away - without knowing the local geography that may or may not be the case. Depending on where the closest yard is and the various routes, a car for a customer could very easily pass right by the destination one or more times on through trains between major or regional yards before being delivered by the wayfreight/local job.

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Posted by AgentKid on Monday, March 14, 2016 12:58 PM

samfp1943
Lately, also there have been moves with a single unit for power,and a hopper-style car, followed by a single Office Car on the rear. No idea of what they might have been studying or testing(?).

One of these trains was mentioned by me on the Rochelle Web Cam thread. It seems it is a rail test car being tested for use by BNSF. Someone even found a video of it.

Bruce

 

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Posted by CBT on Sunday, March 13, 2016 2:20 PM

I'm pretty sure they were going away from the museum, but im not 100%  sure. I think they were mostly white too. 

Thanks,

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Sunday, March 13, 2016 12:18 PM

I'd bet they were headed to the VMT (Virginia Museum of Transportation) that is just barely visible at the extreme right of the camera's view.

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Posted by CBT on Sunday, March 13, 2016 11:45 AM

Thanks for all the help everyone. Also, this train was around 11 pm eastern, so it was at night. 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Sunday, March 13, 2016 11:13 AM

BaltACD

Don't specifically know in this particular instance - on my carrier passenger cars cannot have more than 7500 trailing tons behind them.

 

I would guess that each railroad will have it's own set of pecautions for moving 'passenger' eqipment in situation other than what would be a designated/ offical Office Car movement. 

A story in railroad circles told about the time in 1989 when Mike Haverty invited J.B, Hunt to ride the Santa Fe's 'Super C', and introduced the trucker to how the railroad could move piggy-back between Chicago and the West Coast. It is still a solid alliance to this date.

Around here Office Care movements seem to happen more at night or in  the evening hours. BNSF keeps its Offic Car fleet at its facilities in Topeka.[ Roughly, 150 miles]. Recently, I have seen some multiple Office fleet cars/(trains?) pass by here; (West End of the Emporia sub, and its junction Mulvane,Ks.).   Lately, also there have been moves with a single unit for power,and a hopper-style car, followed by a single Office Car on the rear. No idea of what they might have been studying or testing(?).

 

 


 

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, March 13, 2016 8:46 AM

A couple of possibilities - cars purchased by someone (possibly a museum or an individual) being hauled somewhere for rehab and display, or perhaps even use as a private car (a la NYC "Sandy Creek" and others).

Railroad owned, although I don't think there are many old passenger cars in MOW service.

Clearly they've been passed for trip over the rails (sometimes an issue with old cars).  Cars headed for a destination where Amtrak has no facilities to remove them from the train go as freight cars in freight trains from wherever Amtrak can take them off.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:57 PM

Don't specifically know in this particular instance - on my carrier passenger cars cannot have more than 7500 trailing tons behind them.

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Odd passenger cars at end of freight train?
Posted by CBT on Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:49 PM

Hi, I was watching the roanoke can and I saw a freight train. But it have two (on a bit graffitied) passenger cars, then a box car, then the end? I was just wondering what they could of been for?

thanks,

     Chris

 

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