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The Mystery midwest city is......Cleveland Ohio. <br /> <br /> Cleveland had a history of commuter rail although limited on the following lines- <br /> NKP- From Westlake to Mentor from 1940 to 1960something...Startted during WW2 to address Wartime gas shortages...Used modifyed boxcars as a intresting way to meet the need. Commuters did not seem to mind because it was a short 30 min ride for most of them. <br />Erie-Clveland-Youngstown from 1930 something to 1977 this line was used by workers in the Terminal Tower Complex many of which worked for the Erie railroad. When the Erie Pulled its regional headquarters from Cleveland So went 1/2 the riders <br />Pennsy- The Hanna was a once in and once out service to Clevelands south east suberbs up untill 1959. The service was stopped at the same time WW2 vets were buying bungalows in garfield,maple hts and Bedford. <br />B&O-Ran service to Akron going thr the route of the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad today. Service was slow but hey so was the pace of life up untill 1962 whenthe service stopped. <br />NEW YORK CENTRAL-In addition to its name trains it had all stops locals that were reported to run up untill mid 1960s that doubled as Commuter trains.Even name trains stoped at local stops if the passenger made a stink about it. <br />CUT- Electrified line from Collinwood to What was a rural area in Clevelands west side- This parreled the current Red line and was used by local commuters and had 20 90mph electric Loco in its stable. <br /> <br />Acording to the latest Population reports Clevelands metro poluation of 2,000,000 is to remain the same untill 2040. <br />Against Commuter Rail- Older Population that will be out of the workforce and retiring soon <br />Current population is moving out into rural areas that are far way from the center city. <br /> It is Now tradition to go to collge as far away from mom and dad as possible <br />Kids are leaving city even if they attend many our fine local collages to go to more exciting citys. <br />Poor Cleveland School System or more like the burbs have built a School system to entice homebuyers away from city <br />Old line industrys such as steel and rubber are going south and overseas ans thus the clerical jobs that go with them. <br />The Internet means that people could work out of there own home instead of commuting. <br />We lost our last downtown department store last year- at one time we had 7 HUGE downtown department stores. <br />Losing baseball and Football team <br />In Favor Of Commuter Rail- <br />Existing infrastructure of 8 routes Comming into Cleveland although the problem here is that its is used heavly by Freight. <br />Low cost of housing and low cost of living compared to east coast. <br />Well Educated Workforce with 5 Collages. <br />Large Downtown Terminal that could be reconverted though Parker would have to be Moved out. <br />There are still a number of Fortune 500 Companys here. <br />Hospitals and Education, Legal are the growing workforce in the Central City <br />But low paying service jobs are more likely to use buses or Rapids then Commuter rail. <br />Large Poor Black transit dependent population that would like better transit service to get to new jobs in Suburburan Office Parks. <br />More Against-A Number of County Commisners hold real estate trests in Outying areas want more freeways to see there land get develpoped[8)] <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />
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