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[quote user="Murphy Siding"]     1435mm:  I agree on what you say about Edsel verses lemon.  Perhaps a better desription would have been to use the name "Pacer".[:P]      What locomotives would you consider to have been "lemons" (Or Pacers)?       Can you elaborate on the idea of "too big"?  Thanks      [/quote] Too big = more horsepower (and price!) then is justified by the work it does.  Tractive effort is limited by maximum permissible weight and maximum attainable adhesion and thus is not a meaningful improvement over a AC4400CW or SD70MAC.  The extra 1600 horsepower would be meaningful at higher speeds but at a cost that made sense.  It might have helped had the availability and MTBF been better, but even if GE and EMD had been able to match the performance of the AC4400CW and SD70MAC the economics still aren't there. S. Hadid
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