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[quote user="jeffhergert"][quote user="BNSFrailfan"]Who takes the blame when a Train stalls on a hill and is blocking crossings? [/quote]   That situation is a bit different. The situations I meant were ones where you know your going to be stopped for whatever reason.   If you're stopped because of trouble and can't move that's a bit different.  The laws allow for crossings to be blocked longer than 10 minutes (or whatever the local time limit is).   If you're stalled it depends what the circumstances are. If you are going to wait for someone to help you over the hill and it will be quite a while before help arrives, if safe, you could possibly back down off the crossing, or at least back enough of the train that the engines could pull some cars up to cut it.  If you're going to double the hill, and the portion you're leaving is on the crossing, there isn't much anyone can do, unless you can back the train down, at least to where the cut is made. If it isn't safe to do that, then blocking the crossing is no one's fault.   If I stalled on Blair hill, I would probably say it's safer to leave it blocked until someone pushes you over it.  It's a judgement call and if I can't get a law officer or company officer to agree, I'd have to take the blame.   Jeff      [/quote]Ok ok I got it now. Luckly for the UP they haven't had anymore problems with Trains stalling. If a crew already knows that their Train is way to much for their Power to handle. Then why doesn't the Trainmaster or yardmaster give the Train enough Power to make the trip? And not just the UP is at falt too. Other Railroads do the same things and not just the UP. The CNW was very stupid too. Like many years ago I watched a Westbound CNW Ore Train come through Blair With 3 SD40-2 on the head end. And sure enough as thay where climing the hill the Train broke a knuckle right on the hill. It was stalled for two hours. There was no other Train going west for some time. So the CNW Dispatcher told the crew to cut half the Train and haul it to Kennard and go back for the other half. My Question is. If the crew knows if thier not going to make the hill.....then why risk it. It's way beyond me. UP still did the same thing the CNW did. The one thing I have learned is. DC Motors do suck on heave Trains. If there was a very heavy Grain Train pulling the hill. Most likely it would stall. I also have seem many time with very heave Grain Trains that have AC instead of DC. The AC Motors do a very nice job of pulling heavy Trains over a hill. I have seen that. Kudos to AC. But I must say that the UP has gotten much better of not have Trains stalled on the hill that much. And one more thing. UP would do so much better job if they where to go in and cut that stupid hill too. It needs it. Allan.
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