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[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by futuremodal</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by Character</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by futuremodal</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by Murphy Siding</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by futuremodal</i> <br /><br />[quote]QUOTE: <i>Originally posted by rrandb</i> <br /><br />I am still baffeled by the concept the with two railroads bring coal out there are captive shippers on the originating end. That is a Duopoly not a Monopoly. Virtually all shippers are captive on the terminating end unless they receive enough product to justify two receiving railroads? Any improvements in track capacity aid all shippers in reduceing all transit times whether they ship or receive single cars or unit trains. <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />It depends of how many (if any) of the mines that connect to the joint line are able to ship by either railroad, or if they are obligated to one or the other. <br />[/quote] <br /> *Obligated*? You mean like signed a contract?[:0] <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />Could be, or perhaps UP and BNSF divied up which mines will be served by which railroad. If one or the other railroad built the spur to the mine, that railroad would logically get all the traffic from that mine. If the mine owners built the spur, one would think they'd get to choose which railroad to use, but that may not be the case. <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />Well Dave, you just showed us how little you know about railroads (again). The Powder River Line is a JOINT LINE, which as those of us in the railroad industry know means that both carriers can serve customers connected to the joint asset. It has nothing to do with who built what track. Again, your basic ignorance of all things railroad shines through... <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />The question you either ignored or missed completely is that the JOINT LINE itself does not directly access every mine in the PRB. Most of the mines need build outs from the JOINT LINE to the mine to be able to access the JOINT LINE. Just because UP and BNSF built the JOINT LINE doesn't mean both UP and BNSF partnered up for each and every mine spur. <br /> <br />You would think a self described railroad lawyer would be able to figger that out. Obviously, that alleged persona has been blown to smithereens by your continued ingorance of railroad minutia. Looks like we've found ourselves another 14 year old banjo playing miscreant posing as something more (or less?) <br />[/quote] <br /> <br />There you go again, you uneducated cretin you... <br /> <br />If you knew a thing about railroads you'd know that the majority of the coal moving from the PRB moves over the Joint Line. Although there are several other mines they are in the north basin on a BNSF line and that coal is a BNSF origin. The coal moving to the Joint Line represents coal from one of three mining companies, all of which have contracts with both UP and BNSF. The costs of the spurs are borne by the mining companies and BOTH railroads have access to all mines. Feel free to read the annual reports of the mining companies if you like...genius... <br /> <br />Shucks, we got us an Economick Anal-ist here boys...FOFLMAO <br />
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