Willy2, Fe Feathers and hunters!

[Mookie]

The Mookie read (do you know how hard that is to do w/o an opposable thumb!)
that a horse killed a 6 point bull elk - right outside Lincoln! Actually, they killed each other!

Since this is the hunting season and while I hunt trains, some of you actually dress in halloween costumes and go out hunting small furry and feathered things! One such hunter came upon a dead bull elk and a dead '98 Mustang.

Seems they had a fight to the death - on Interstate 80 - just west of Lincoln at 4 am. Bull weighed in about 500-700 pounds - Mustang will be weighed for scrap! Tore the roof back about 2 feet, put windshield in front seat and shattered back window. Owner of Mustang received bumps and bruises when he closed his eyes at 65 and let them attack each other! He also had fur on his shoulder - no word on how they removed that!

Elk are not uncommon around Nebraska, just not usually that close to so many university students and all our noise! But a 6 point - even the Mook is impressed!

And the Mustang never left the ground - unlike an SUV which would have rolled like a marble! Or become the latest US satellite!

Ah - we are truly the Wild, Wild West!

Moo......[;)]

[JoeKoh]

had a friend run into a belgian horse with his car on a foggy morning.he got bumps and bruises.Reminded some dumb hunters how fast trains come through Defiance and how many too after they were taken by surprise by a hot intermodal.
remember
stay safe
Joe

[Willy2]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

The Mookie read (do you know how hard that is to do w/o an opposable thumb!)
that a horse killed a 6 point bull elk - right outside Lincoln! Actually, they killed each other!

Since this is the hunting season and while I hunt trains, some of you actually dress in halloween costumes and go out hunting small furry and feathered things! One such hunter came upon a dead bull elk and a dead '98 Mustang.

Seems they had a fight to the death - on Interstate 80 - just west of Lincoln at 4 am. Bull weighed in about 500-700 pounds - Mustang will be weighed for scrap! Tore the roof back about 2 feet, put windshield in front seat and shattered back window. Owner of Mustang received bumps and bruises when he closed his eyes at 65 and let them attack each other! He also had fur on his shoulder - no word on how they removed that!

Elk are not uncommon around Nebraska, just not usually that close to so many university students and all our noise! But a 6 point - even the Mook is impressed!

And the Mustang never left the ground - unlike an SUV which would have rolled like a marble! Or become the latest US satellite!

Ah - we are truly the Wild, Wild West!

Moo......[;)]

Well Mookie, I usually watch the news but haven't heard about that one yet. It sounds very interesting. It is interesting just how easily those SUVs role! Fortunately nobody in my near family has hit anything bigger than a bird for quite awhile. I hope it stays that way. And of course in Souix City on the Iowa side farmers shot a mountain because they were afraid of it.[xx(][:(!] I think that is just sick. The thing was nowhere near them and not threatening them! Oh Well. I wonder what else will happen in wild and crazy mixing of the animals and humans?[:D]

[Anonymous]

The real horses aren't any smarter than the mechanical ones. My grandmother told me of an incident when she was about 7 years old. [c. 1900] A man was riding horseback up Barclay St. Just as he approached North Ave., a streetcar running on North sounded its gong. The horse freaked and ran full-tilt across North Ave. and slammed into Greenmount Cemetery wall, killing himself and the rider, who had been desperately trying to stop him. No 7 year old will forget seeing a sight such as that. [Actually, the mechanical horse might have been a bit dumber.]

[dharmon]

I've had some close calls with deer on the roadways, usually coming home from trying to hunt them it seems. A good friend of mine had his Jetta totalled when the buck tried to leap over the car, but impacted the car and ended up bending the frame. But...the best I've seen (or worst) was.... about 10 years ago when a Air National Guard C130 was doing night touch and gos up at the old Loring AFB in Northern Maine. A large estimated to be 175lbs or so buck wandered on to the runway. The C130 hit it about 120 KTS (about 150MPH). The plane survived barely...if you know what a C130 looks like, the nose is mostl;y plexiglass.

I've never hit a deer with a plane, but I can say that I have taken my share of birds. Almost lost an engine to one and a windshield to another. A squadron mate of mine did though. Ate a seagull, completely destroyed a turbine.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

I've had some close calls with deer on the roadways, usually coming home from trying to hunt them it seems. A good friend of mine had his Jetta totalled when the buck tried to leap over the car, but impacted the car and ended up bending the frame. But...the best I've seen (or worst) was.... about 10 years ago when a Air National Guard C130 was doing night touch and gos up at the old Loring AFB in Northern Maine. A large estimated to be 175lbs or so buck wandered on to the runway. The C130 hit it about 120 KTS (about 150MPH). The plane survived barely...if you know what a C130 looks like, the nose is mostl;y plexiglass.

I've never hit a deer with a plane, but I can say that I have taken my share of birds. Almost lost an engine to one and a windshield to another. A squadron mate of mine did though. Ate a seagull, completely destroyed a turbine.

Caught just a brief segment on Paul Harvey - a plane was found with a whole turkey vulture in the engine. Of course, someone was talking and I missed what happed to the plane and crew - but that would be some collision!

Mook

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

The Mookie read (do you know how hard that is to do w/o an opposable thumb!)
that a horse killed a 6 point bull elk - right outside Lincoln! Actually, they killed each other!

Since this is the hunting season and while I hunt trains, some of you actually dress in halloween costumes and go out hunting small furry and feathered things! One such hunter came upon a dead bull elk and a dead '98 Mustang.

Seems they had a fight to the death - on Interstate 80 - just west of Lincoln at 4 am. Bull weighed in about 500-700 pounds - Mustang will be weighed for scrap! Tore the roof back about 2 feet, put windshield in front seat and shattered back window. Owner of Mustang received bumps and bruises when he closed his eyes at 65 and let them attack each other! He also had fur on his shoulder - no word on how they removed that!

Elk are not uncommon around Nebraska, just not usually that close to so many university students and all our noise! But a 6 point - even the Mook is impressed!

And the Mustang never left the ground - unlike an SUV which would have rolled like a marble! Or become the latest US satellite!

Ah - we are truly the Wild, Wild West!

Moo......[;)]

Well Mookie, I usually watch the news but haven't heard about that one yet. It sounds very interesting. It is interesting just how easily those SUVs role! Fortunately nobody in my near family has hit anything bigger than a bird for quite awhile. I hope it stays that way. And of course in Souix City on the Iowa side farmers shot a mountain because they were afraid of it.[xx(][:(!] I think that is just sick. The thing was nowhere near them and not threatening them! Oh Well. I wonder what else will happen in wild and crazy mixing of the animals and humans?[:D]

Willy - I heard about the one in Iowa and now there is one way out west in Nebraska that the farmer has permission to kill. This particular cat has killed a horse and some calves, so they said he could kill the lion. I am like you - it is sad - we have to put something that beautiful down. I can almost see if it is killing livestock - they won't go back to harder prey, but just because it is there - that is plain silliness.

Mookie

[dharmon]

I have seen a picture of an aircraft - turkey buzzard collision. Big hole in the leading edge of the wing with legs sticking out of it.

[Anonymous]

My buddy the Newfie (he's from Newfoundland for all of my friends in the US, and to my Canadian friends, yes, I tried Newfie Skreech....I don't think I will ever be the same. ), anyway, he tells me that back home the biggest problem (no pun) is the car / moose collisions. Says that they are almost always fatal to the car occupants because the moose are so big and tall. The car takes them out at the knees and the body, all 3/4 tons or so, usually falls on the roof. The passenger compartment gets crushed down to the frame. Does not bode well for driver and passenger. Course I have never seen it myself, since the majority of my moose watching experiences have been with the Rocky and Bullwinkle show. But that's what I was told.

Admiral.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by admiralh

My buddy the Newfie (he's from Newfoundland for all of my friends in the US, and to my Canadian friends, yes, I tried Newfie Skreech....I don't think I will ever be the same. ), anyway, he tells me that back home the biggest problem (no pun) is the car / moose collisions. Says that they are almost always fatal to the car occupants because the moose are so big and tall. The car takes them out at the knees and the body, all 3/4 tons or so, usually falls on the roof. The passenger compartment gets crushed down to the frame. Does not bode well for driver and passenger. Course I have never seen it myself, since the majority of my moose watching experiences have been with the Rocky and Bullwinkle show. But that's what I was told.

Admiral.

Which just begs the question - if you hit deer on a railroad - and probably elk - do you hit moose, too? Or are they smart and stay off the tracks?

Moosie

[dharmon]

I think that would be Operation Wildlife Saver.[:)]

[Anonymous]

I hope you don't mind me asking a couple of questions: what's a SUV? And do you really sometimes say just "mountain" for a mountain lion or cougar? (I quote Willy2: "And of course in Souix City on the Iowa side farmers shot a mountain because they were afraid of it."). I'm not a native speaker of English and I would really appreciate if somebody could answer my questions.
Thanks,
Oliver

[edblysard]

Hi Oliver,
A SUV stands for Sport Utility Vehicel, like a Jeep, or a Range Rover, or Land Cruiser.
And I think Willy just got to typing to fast, and left off the lion part.
We also call that type of cat a cougar, puma, jaguar and mountain lion.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Mookie]

Oliver - I congratulate you on your command of the English Language! I don't want to insult my fellow citizens in the US by saying I can follow your postings without much effort....but.....it's true. And it isn't the typing - it is the thought processes.

See gentlemen - the Mookie does have claws!

Moo

[Willy2]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Oliver Trzok

I hope you don't mind me asking a couple of questions: what's a SUV? And do you really sometimes say just "mountain" for a mountain lion or cougar? (I quote Willy2: "And of course in Souix City on the Iowa side farmers shot a mountain because they were afraid of it."). I'm not a native speaker of English and I would really appreciate if somebody could answer my questions.
Thanks,
Oliver

Hi Oliver, Yes, I was just typing too fast and my thought process must have been a little bit nutty when I typed about the mountain lion. I meant to say mountain lion, not mountain.

When you think about it it is almost kind of funny. Just to think how funny it would be if someone shot a mountain because they were afraid of it. Never mind the humor though. Ed cleared up the SUV thing better than I could have. I hope that everything is all cleared up now.

Kind Regards,
Willy

[vsmith]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

I have seen a picture of an aircraft - turkey buzzard collision. Big hole in the leading edge of the wing with legs sticking out of it.

I remember back in the 80's when the B1B was undergoing its initial flight test evaluations when one crashed, the cause turned out to be a collision with a pelican. They were joking afterwords saying the FBI was investigating the pelican's remains for any signs of Soviet involvment.

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

I have seen a picture of an aircraft - turkey buzzard collision. Big hole in the leading edge of the wing with legs sticking out of it.

I remember back in the 80's when the B1B was undergoing its initial flight test evaluations when one crashed, the cause turned out to be a collision with a pelican. They were joking afterwords saying the FBI was investigating the pelican's remains for any signs of Soviet involvment.

As well they should have. It is a little known fact that back in the early 50s, a small group of western pelicans on a routine flight got lost and strayed into Soviet airspace. They were forced down by the people's duck hunters collective and turned over to the proper air defense authorities (several of the hunters were awarded Hero of the Soviet Union medals for their bravery defending the homeland). The Soviets took them to the top secret Tupelov "skunk works" factory in Siberia and they were reversed engineered. The people's pelikanskis were secretly released from a submarine off the Pacific Northwest to infiltrate the US. These sleepers would carry on doing normal pelican things, except some were caught because they squaked with an accent. Others, when given a super secret code signal would seek out US military aircraft and attempt to cra***hem by colliding with them. The original screen play for the Manchurian Candidate was about this, but when Frank Sinatra refused to wear the pelican costume for the role, they re-wrote it to be about humans. [;)]

[Anonymous]

Thanks Ed and Willy for answering my questions.
I've been too busy to visit the forum these days. It's nice to see you're willing to help, thank you very much.
Oliver

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Oliver - I congratulate you on your command of the English Language! I don't want to insult my fellow citizens in the US by saying I can follow your postings without much effort....but.....it's true. And it isn't the typing - it is the thought processes.

See gentlemen - the Mookie does have claws!

Moo

Whew, now it'll take me even more to come up with a sentence I'll consider worthy of posting here!
Thanks, Mook, my teachers of English would be happy to read this.
Bye,

Oliver