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WHOOT!!! Ok, I'll take your word for it. My primary objective never was to be contentious with anyone here who is an expert in railroading. Why I brought this up in the first place was because I know there is always room for new ideas and improvements in any job. I'm sure this concept I had was already looked at (perhaps many many years ago) and through engineering & testing, what was discovered was a "... it doesn't matter ... it's all the same ..." to the idea. I offer my apologies to Mudchicken for my outburst. I believe someone else here said I misinterpreted MC's reply. Yes, it is possible. I'm at times trigger happy and fire back when I feel fired upon. I'm simply a man with many faults. [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Yes, that is exactaly what I am implying...it in fact is doing a fine job of just that. Are the ends of the rail damaged in any way you can see? Is one end worn more than the other, or chipped/damaged? Are they out of alignment? Is one rail riding higher than the other, or is the joint bar holding the rail together? As long as the bolts are kept snug, it works. I work in a yard, built in 1924...quite a few joint bars never sit on a tie...and some of our rail, in use today, is from the original tracks...1924. [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by Jim_White [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Funny, but Mr White missed the point of what a joint bar does.. Look again...the joint is tight, and the bolts are tight also. The ends of the rail are not shelling or peeling, so the joint is not getting hammered and the joint is in gauge and supported by at least one end on a tie...although it is not a requirement that it sit on a tie at all. The point of the joint bar is to keep the ends of the rail aligned, and to keep one end from riding higher or lower than the other...which this one is doing. Oh, and if this paticular mudchicken told me I could run a SD70M down that track at 10 mph, I would, with out any hesitation. Ed [/quote] Judging by the picture of this situation we see before us, are you and Mudchicken saying that the joint bar here (again, in this particular situation) will be able to consistently handle the tremendous loads with no signs of wearing? [/quote] [/quote]
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