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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 15, 2003 3:52 PM
Do model Railraods count...??

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 15, 2003 3:52 PM
Do model Railraods count...??

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, September 15, 2003 6:11 PM
Only if its 1:1 scale and is a paying non-tourist line.

I would have included Ward Kimballs "Grizzly Flats" railroad, its only 900 feet from the engine house to the wild wilderness of the orange groves but it was a private RR in Kimballs backyard therefore not a paying line.
Angels Flight is a paying commercial line operated by a private company for the City of Los Angeles, just like the Metro.

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Posted by vsmith on Monday, September 15, 2003 6:11 PM
Only if its 1:1 scale and is a paying non-tourist line.

I would have included Ward Kimballs "Grizzly Flats" railroad, its only 900 feet from the engine house to the wild wilderness of the orange groves but it was a private RR in Kimballs backyard therefore not a paying line.
Angels Flight is a paying commercial line operated by a private company for the City of Los Angeles, just like the Metro.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 15, 2003 8:04 PM
One possibility could be the CRANDIC(Cedar Rapids and Iowa City). It can not be more than 20-30 miles, but I am sure there are many more shorter than this. I once talked to a guy that worked for ADM transportation, and when I asked him for a map of the CRANDIC, he told me to give him an 3 by 5 index card, and that would leave him plenty of room!
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 15, 2003 8:04 PM
One possibility could be the CRANDIC(Cedar Rapids and Iowa City). It can not be more than 20-30 miles, but I am sure there are many more shorter than this. I once talked to a guy that worked for ADM transportation, and when I asked him for a map of the CRANDIC, he told me to give him an 3 by 5 index card, and that would leave him plenty of room!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:35 AM
Kevin's Railroad: 12 feet max.
Located: in his basement, In Quebec Canada.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:35 AM
Kevin's Railroad: 12 feet max.
Located: in his basement, In Quebec Canada.
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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

Kevin's Railroad: 12 feet max.
Located: in his basement, In Quebec Canada.


Whats your ridership per week? Frieght load? and I dont mean laundry...:-)

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Posted by vsmith on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

Kevin's Railroad: 12 feet max.
Located: in his basement, In Quebec Canada.


Whats your ridership per week? Frieght load? and I dont mean laundry...:-)

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Posted by Kathi Kube on Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:03 AM
Here's one for you: Effingham Railroad in Effingham, IL.

It's a Class III line haul common carrier that connects with CSX and CN/IC. The business was started in 1999 to serve customers in an industrial park who didn't want to build a spur to either Class I. The major roads would only pick up and set out cars. Effingham services customers 24/7.

In addition, Agracel's Total Quality Warehouse leases storage space, has a rail dock and eight truck docks, and serves as a garage for Effingham's locomotive.

Effingham's customers include such big names as International Paper and Krispy Kreme.

Check out the railroad's Web site: www.efrr.com.

It's a little railroad, but legitimate in every sense.

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Posted by Kathi Kube on Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:03 AM
Here's one for you: Effingham Railroad in Effingham, IL.

It's a Class III line haul common carrier that connects with CSX and CN/IC. The business was started in 1999 to serve customers in an industrial park who didn't want to build a spur to either Class I. The major roads would only pick up and set out cars. Effingham services customers 24/7.

In addition, Agracel's Total Quality Warehouse leases storage space, has a rail dock and eight truck docks, and serves as a garage for Effingham's locomotive.

Effingham's customers include such big names as International Paper and Krispy Kreme.

Check out the railroad's Web site: www.efrr.com.

It's a little railroad, but legitimate in every sense.

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:38 AM
Kathi:

EFRR's sister railroad, Illinois Western at Greenville, IL is shorter. Charlie Barenfanger runs a really neat operation!!

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:38 AM
Kathi:

EFRR's sister railroad, Illinois Western at Greenville, IL is shorter. Charlie Barenfanger runs a really neat operation!!

-mc
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Posted by cabforward on Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:55 PM
how many miles does it have?

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Posted by cabforward on Thursday, September 18, 2003 5:55 PM
how many miles does it have?

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:01 PM
About 1/2 mile ((2640 feet)....A lead track, a switch to nowhere and a switch to an industrial building.....All well hidden east of town (There really isn't any tail room to get an engine out of the way of a revenue load in there...has expansion plans, but no takers so far)
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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:01 PM
About 1/2 mile ((2640 feet)....A lead track, a switch to nowhere and a switch to an industrial building.....All well hidden east of town (There really isn't any tail room to get an engine out of the way of a revenue load in there...has expansion plans, but no takers so far)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Whats your ridership per week? Frieght load? and I dont mean laundry...:-)


Well it's an Ho scale, i could use the flat bed car to put my socks on for the washing.. it would save me 12 feet! [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Whats your ridership per week? Frieght load? and I dont mean laundry...:-)


Well it's an Ho scale, i could use the flat bed car to put my socks on for the washing.. it would save me 12 feet! [;)]
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Posted by sd452 on Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:47 PM
There is a railroad in Wisconsin that is very short. It is called the Tomahawk Railroad. I know its head quarters are in Tomahawk Wis. But I'm not sure exactly how short it is but it is under 10 miles. And only has one engine.
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Posted by sd452 on Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:47 PM
There is a railroad in Wisconsin that is very short. It is called the Tomahawk Railroad. I know its head quarters are in Tomahawk Wis. But I'm not sure exactly how short it is but it is under 10 miles. And only has one engine.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sd452

There is a railroad in Wisconsin that is very short. It is called the Tomahawk Railroad. I know its head quarters are in Tomahawk Wis. But I'm not sure exactly how short it is but it is under 10 miles. And only has one engine.

Sir, I believe that railroad was purchased by Wisc. Cntrl. Correct me if I'm wrong!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sd452

There is a railroad in Wisconsin that is very short. It is called the Tomahawk Railroad. I know its head quarters are in Tomahawk Wis. But I'm not sure exactly how short it is but it is under 10 miles. And only has one engine.

Sir, I believe that railroad was purchased by Wisc. Cntrl. Correct me if I'm wrong!!
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Posted by jsanchez on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:54 AM
The Strasburg Railroad in PA is under 5 miles, their main business is tourists, but they do haul plastic pellets. They also haul equipment and parts for the State Railroad of Pennsylvania. This is also the oldest shortline in the USA, started in the 1840's. They run mostly steam. A new rail operation in Mount Union , PA will only be a few miles long it will run on old Pennsy and East Broad Top tracks to serve customers, some of the trackage will be dual gauge which is very rare nowadays. Many industrial parks have their own railroads to better serve customers and eliminate the hassles involved with class ones. It is a lot easier to get new sidings built off a shortline and to get cars spotted exactly how they are needed.

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Posted by jsanchez on Friday, September 19, 2003 9:54 AM
The Strasburg Railroad in PA is under 5 miles, their main business is tourists, but they do haul plastic pellets. They also haul equipment and parts for the State Railroad of Pennsylvania. This is also the oldest shortline in the USA, started in the 1840's. They run mostly steam. A new rail operation in Mount Union , PA will only be a few miles long it will run on old Pennsy and East Broad Top tracks to serve customers, some of the trackage will be dual gauge which is very rare nowadays. Many industrial parks have their own railroads to better serve customers and eliminate the hassles involved with class ones. It is a lot easier to get new sidings built off a shortline and to get cars spotted exactly how they are needed.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, September 19, 2003 10:21 AM
Several paper railroads which are primarily bridges or tunnels are quite short. Examples would be Southern Illinois & Missouri Bridge Co over the Mississippi River and the St. Clair Tunnel Co. between Port Huron and Sarnia. St. Clair Tunnel had its own electric locomotives prior to dieselization in the 1950's.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, September 19, 2003 10:21 AM
Several paper railroads which are primarily bridges or tunnels are quite short. Examples would be Southern Illinois & Missouri Bridge Co over the Mississippi River and the St. Clair Tunnel Co. between Port Huron and Sarnia. St. Clair Tunnel had its own electric locomotives prior to dieselization in the 1950's.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul

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