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Kinzua Bridge Collapses

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 10:06 PM
If somebody desides to take any thing, it is considerd a federal crime and they will be punished because it is goverment property and you will by all means arrested. You could also see where there were severe rusted out spots from below the bridge earlier this year .
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 10:06 PM
If somebody desides to take any thing, it is considerd a federal crime and they will be punished because it is goverment property and you will by all means arrested. You could also see where there were severe rusted out spots from below the bridge earlier this year .
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 10:26 PM
Read about the impending abandonment of Kinzua Bridge in the Erie Railroad employees' magazine as a teenager and so had to see it. Buffalo NRHS chapter ran a passenger special out of Buffalo via the B&SW sub division to Dayton, N Y then backed over onto the Erie's Dunkirk Branch for a faser than expected run into Salamanca, N Y and finally down the Bradford subdivision to the Kinzua Bridge. That first time I rode over it I don't ever remember feeling so vulnerable. It was an emotional experience. That was the Fall on 1958.

There were two or so trips to the bridge the following Spring of '59 from Meadville. I rode one of them from Salmanca and then just before abandonment I had the good fortune of being introduced to Patty O'Brien the legendary Bradfore Div. conductor on the Johnsonburg turn. This was a daylight local on the Branch. Patty stopped the train on the Bridge for lunch so I could climb part way down to get a better perspective on things. Shortly thereafter Erie trains began using a connection north of Bradford to access the BR&P and used it all the way into Brockway until Conrail and the demise of the EL.

There was an all-night through train that went to Brockway, Pa with traffic for local customers in the area but most went to the Pittsburg & Shawmut, often 100 cars mostly of coal. In the dead of night I can only believe that crews must have wondered whether the bridge was going to be there. Those were the days. Sorry to hear the news.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 28, 2003 10:26 PM
Read about the impending abandonment of Kinzua Bridge in the Erie Railroad employees' magazine as a teenager and so had to see it. Buffalo NRHS chapter ran a passenger special out of Buffalo via the B&SW sub division to Dayton, N Y then backed over onto the Erie's Dunkirk Branch for a faser than expected run into Salamanca, N Y and finally down the Bradford subdivision to the Kinzua Bridge. That first time I rode over it I don't ever remember feeling so vulnerable. It was an emotional experience. That was the Fall on 1958.

There were two or so trips to the bridge the following Spring of '59 from Meadville. I rode one of them from Salmanca and then just before abandonment I had the good fortune of being introduced to Patty O'Brien the legendary Bradfore Div. conductor on the Johnsonburg turn. This was a daylight local on the Branch. Patty stopped the train on the Bridge for lunch so I could climb part way down to get a better perspective on things. Shortly thereafter Erie trains began using a connection north of Bradford to access the BR&P and used it all the way into Brockway until Conrail and the demise of the EL.

There was an all-night through train that went to Brockway, Pa with traffic for local customers in the area but most went to the Pittsburg & Shawmut, often 100 cars mostly of coal. In the dead of night I can only believe that crews must have wondered whether the bridge was going to be there. Those were the days. Sorry to hear the news.

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Posted by boomer44 on Monday, July 28, 2003 10:59 PM
My wife and I spent our 25th wedding anniversary at the Viaduct. Wonderful memories in a caboose at the Park in '92. Knox, Kane and Kinzua crew dropped us off for the night. We got to walk the viaduct all by ourselves. So peaceful and quiet. The following day they picked us up and we continued across the valley. We showed off "our " caboose to everyone. The kids loved it. Great people in the area add to fond memories.
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Posted by boomer44 on Monday, July 28, 2003 10:59 PM
My wife and I spent our 25th wedding anniversary at the Viaduct. Wonderful memories in a caboose at the Park in '92. Knox, Kane and Kinzua crew dropped us off for the night. We got to walk the viaduct all by ourselves. So peaceful and quiet. The following day they picked us up and we continued across the valley. We showed off "our " caboose to everyone. The kids loved it. Great people in the area add to fond memories.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:09 AM
I could not even imagine how much$ it will cost to rebuild it. Its a damn shame some one relised to fix it earlyer. Then again you cannot stop a train..or a tornado :(
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:09 AM
I could not even imagine how much$ it will cost to rebuild it. Its a damn shame some one relised to fix it earlyer. Then again you cannot stop a train..or a tornado :(
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:56 AM
Initial estimates for rebuilding the bridge are 46 million. The original 1900 plans have been retrieved from the Smithsonian.

If FEMA disaster funds are available, there will be serious consideration made to rebuilding.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:56 AM
Initial estimates for rebuilding the bridge are 46 million. The original 1900 plans have been retrieved from the Smithsonian.

If FEMA disaster funds are available, there will be serious consideration made to rebuilding.
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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:15 PM
....It seems we rebuild all kinds of structural losses for many people in this world so mabe it's time we do some of it for ourselves.

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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:15 PM
....It seems we rebuild all kinds of structural losses for many people in this world so mabe it's time we do some of it for ourselves.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....It seems we rebuild all kinds of structural losses for many people in this world so mabe it's time we do some of it for ourselves.

And the people will be grateful instaed of backbitting us.[:(!]
stay safe
joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....It seems we rebuild all kinds of structural losses for many people in this world so mabe it's time we do some of it for ourselves.

And the people will be grateful instaed of backbitting us.[:(!]
stay safe
joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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