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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal Mark in Utah - There's a big difference with being located within rock throwing distance of a SOX emitter, and being located a nominal distance away. Your Camas WA example would tell you that the SOX concentrations from the paper mill did not even get a chance to get up in the atmosphere to disperse before percipitation brought it back to the surface. What the Northeasterns claim is that Midwest coal fired power plants caused (or are causing) acid rain in the Northeast. This is a fraudulent claim, because we all know that point sources of emissions will disperse a certain distance from the plant, and once the SOX has dispersed it's concentrations are such that measurements are insignificant. And no offense, but the urban legend of cars eroding before one's eyes sounds more like a fish story. [/quote] Urban legend crap. This is FACT fella. Disbelieve all you want, but when a friends fender falls off, well, that's plenty of proof for me. You FAIL to tell me WHY the Black Forest is dying. The ph of the soil is dropping, the needles are falling off, and there are acres and acres of dead trees. How about lakes in the Northeast? Please try and explain WHY these lakes are becomming more and more acidic? Can't can you? As for dispersing in the atmosphere to the point you can't measure it, I guess you've never seen a smoke trail from a power plant from 30 miles away? This was a pretty clean burning plant here in the west, that was virtually smoke-free a the stack, but when viewed from a mountain top you could see a brown haze proceeding from the plant all the way down a valley and off to the east. If such a clean burning plant can leave a visible trail at that distance, an older dirty plant in the east must leave quite the trail! Haven't you ever smelled a camp fire out in the hills camping? How about a wild fire? I've smelled the smoke and SEEN the smoke from California wildfires, and they were close to 1000 miles away! Gee, I thought the smoke was supposed to disperse and not be detected..... Scientists have traced smoke back to individual plants from over 100 miles away by knowing the chemical makeup of the coal its burning. Acid rain has been detected in Washington state that came across the Atlantic they believe from China. Sorry, just because you dump something up into the air and you don't see it after a while does NOT mean that it's disappeared. It's just gone down wind to crap on your neighbor. Mark in Utah
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