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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by ChrisBARailfan I was indeed talking about Washington Park, I was at the east end parked near the exit from under Union Station, I was out of my vehicle and was standing by the wall. The first contact I had was with a KCPD officer, he and I conversed for several minutes. As he walked on foot through the park he told me to have fun and be safe. Minutes later a BNSF Police explorer parked behind my vehicle and that is when I was asked to leave. I have watched movements from Washington Park and the Union Station parking lot for months with no problems. I will be honest that I rarely watch planes at Wheeler Downtown airport, but you notice that the spot on the west side where you could park is gone. It was closed prior to construction and according to aviation workers will not be coming back. I however work during the day and do most watching in late evening or night. For years I sat on the I-29 outer road on the south side of the airport along the flight path in the gravel that runs along the outer road. Now signs have been posted along both outer roads advised no stopping is permitted. I have been asked to leave that spot by both MHP and Airport police due to security concerns. As for the Air Show construction cancelled this years show and next years I believe, but after that "security and scheduling concerns" will dictate if the airshow returns. That was from the Kansas City Star from several weeks ago. I am not being alarmist in saying that I believe that Kansas City and other local authorities have used "security concerns" to accomplish goals that before they could not have and once a freedom is taken it is rarely returned. [/quote] You were not on public property if you were parked below the station and not in Washington Park , no wonder you were asked to leave. I'm sure you wanted to park in the shade but this is not the place to do this. You misstated your situation then made some general statements to support your theory. Yes the west side parking area at Downtown Airport is probably gone for good, I too will miss it, that's just the way it is, park on the south end. As for MCI, do you really expect the police to allow anyone to sit anywhere around the airport unattended? I agree we are harmless in what we do, however get use to the fact things will never be the same, Over all we haven't loss that many spots . It is unfortunate your work forces you to fan at night, one has to expect some scrutiny while out after dark, 911 aside, there are still crime issues to be addressed. I'm not for giving in and allowing myself to be steamrolled, nor should you,yet a certain amount of change will have to be accepted and taking a few isolated events and making them into a call to arms to defend our freedoms is a bit much. I railfan, watch the planes and hunt for benchmarks all of which attract attention, I feel no great loss of my freedoms over and above the expected at this time. I believe I get out as much as any one around here and I miss the old spots, many of which I shouldn't have been at in the first place, ( I believe it's called trespassing?) Now I just have to remember the good old days and enjoy what we currently have,or else I should stay at home. I wasted more time on this than is necessary, point is for all of you get some perspective on things, cut the dramatics, if things get worse we can all speak up, we're not there yet. P.S. Can't believe on one mentioned "The Patriot Act" and how It caused the loss of all our freedoms. ( It didn't you know)
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