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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by daveklepper I well remember the wine red and light red GM&O Chicago - St. Louis trains, some handling through MP-TP cars for Texas. Heavyweight six-wheel truck slightly modernized (outside) diners with excellent chicken dinners and good food in general. Three trains each way duirng the day plus the overnight Owl with sleeper, which came off when the Pullman left the business. But I believe the three day trains continiued until Amtrak and were the only Chicago - St. Louis trains at the time. Earlier, the Wabash and the Illinois Central itself (Green Diamond) gave competition. Power was always E-7's, and I d on't remember any E-8's. There were also some Joliet - Chicago commuter trains but nothing like the intensive service on the Roack Island. At that time the MP used the GM&O as its connection to Chicago for freight, so there was business, but I am not sure that continued after the GM&O merged into the IC. [/quote] I believe that after the Mail was discontinued in '70,the only GM&O trains left were the Limited and the Abe Lincoln until Amtrak. I remember a lot of E8s and 9s on the Green Diamond, sometimes one of the 6s. Usually in an A-B lashup. At the inception of Amtrak the GM&O was the only service between Chicago and St Louis. Trains on the N&W (Wabash) had been cut to Decatur, and the IC's Green Diamond had been cut to Springfield and became the Governor's Special in '68. Mitch
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