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The biggest Jerk! Don't go into Wheaton!

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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by Kurn Sorry,but I just don't buy the "things have changed" excuse.Its a typical knee-jerk reaction by those in charge because they are either too lazy or too clueless to address the issue.Case in point is trucking and haz-mat.Do they really think a terrorist is going to drive a PLACARDED truck with all his haz-mat endorsments in place?Don't think so.Maybe rent a Ryder.........The point is,no one seems to have any kind of plan and the average joe(or railfan)has to suffer. [/quote] A terrorist WILL drive a placarded truck. Otherwise he or she will NOT make it far enough to any target area that is useful A unplacarded tanker truck will be removed from the highway so fast.... The trucking industry takes care of thier own, NOT ONE truck that hauls hazmat turns a wheel unless alot of things are satisfied. A terrorist theoratically could pull the driver out of the cab at gun point and kill him and take over the truck.. but I gaura-dam-tee you that there will be peole around either at the scene or via satellite who will alert to this problem. In fact, a terror enemy combatant will find a way to make war on America. For example... why does he need a hazmat truck sitting in our trux stop when he can get any amount of explosive or a RPG and take out one of the chlorine gas tankers that roll by on the mainline sometime late at night while everyone is sleeping? Why worry about a solitary 18 wheeler when TRAIN LOADS are availible just a few miles away? Maybe you feel I am coming down too hard on you. 9-11 is a day of trouble for America *sniffs... they came, killed, hurt many folks and did a great deal of damage executing thier attack on America. We very well can be hit again at any time. Yes 9-11 changed America and all the world. Before 9-11 no one could care less what you took pictures of trains from where? They probably would wink and smile and joke about the person who probably plays with trains in some basement somewhere. There is a good way we can fix this situation. Training. If the police department in Wheaton Ill became aware of this thread and the problem caused when the officer failed to exercise some kind of restraint due to lack of training in what ever they call it "Confronting" a suspicious person? No sir, I have been approached many a time in crazy situations by police and am not afraid of them. They say "Hello, or good morning!" is there something they need to know or help me with? Once in a while I meet one who is having a bad day. I usually discover that and try to diplomatically assure the officer that I am not a problem. It works out pretty quickly. Once in a while the officer is really in a bad mood and youre it. It's gonna get difficult for you real quick. If you think that is the case, might as well thank the officer for his attention, wish him a good day and ease out of town before anything else happens Marines call it not retreating but strategically repositioning for another day. I too have seen train photograpy threads pop up from time to time regarding officers or suspicious people. perhaps it's time we talk about how to contact cities or towns ahead of time to reach a understanding of how best to photograph trains in a given area instead of just showing up with a camera in hand.
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