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Very interesting about the Philadelphia streetcars dave - i didn't know the exact details. My feelings about Amtrak are that: obviously they'll never compete anymore on speed, so they have to either compete on price - more people paying less... or offer something that airlines/a roadtrip couldn't. Is it time to bring luxury back to the rails? (obviously, with price increase). [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by DSchmitt Does anyone have information for European train subsidies to compare with Amtrak subsidies How do travel costs compare with peoples income in the Europe and in the US? I've done some Internet searches, but aven't found the answers.[:(] [/quote] I found this regarding subsidies for lines in the North of England in a magazine I had: "On some lines to be included in the Northern franchise, taxpayer support was up to 93% though Blackpool North - Manchester Victoria was 53%. Each passenger journey on the Durham Coast line cost the taxpayer £11.50.($21)" (Rail Magazine 476)
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