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QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton I've heard they are a matter of revenge. Track gangs do all the work and engineers get all the glory. "OK, Big Shot! Let's see you handle this wheel slip!
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QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken It's called a flange lubricator and they have been around for 50 years. Cuts down friction on the gage corner of the ball of curve rail (prevents wear, longer rail life).....Rail grease is now also applied by certain hi-rail trucks and a few specially equipped locomotives. (can't print here the other nickname railroaders have for them) The mat helps minimize excess grease from getting into the ballast and fouling it. From the sounds of it, somebody does not know how to maintain the flange lubricator and it is set to pump out too much grease. The grease is to be placed on the side of the ball of the rail (not on top) and the flange of the railcar wheels helps spread and carry the grease along the curve for quite a distance. Portec or RailsCo?
Originally posted by UPTRAIN Here are some around here: Bingo, that's the one!! Reply Edit CSSHEGEWISCH Member sinceMarch 2016 From: Burbank IL (near Clearing) 13,492 posts Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, June 9, 2005 10:05 AM The Chicago Transit Authority is a big user of flange lubricators, especially around their 90-foot radius curves. They may cut down on wheel and rail wear but they don't do too much about the squealing as a train passes. The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,790 posts Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, June 9, 2005 10:23 AM You want steel shavings (steel dandruff) everywhere? You tend to see flange lubricators clustered around the middle of a bunch of curves (usually 6 degrees [Radius 955.37 Ft or sharper] or greater), on grades and places where truck hunting becomes an issue. You place the paddles and the plunger on the unit where the grease can be carried both ways on the high side of the curve(s). The grease can is sitting under a square or round box and lid about 10 feet to the side and some of the new ones are solar powered to help thin (by heat) and electrically pump the grease. Santa Fe's GP-60's had on board lubricators (as an example).... The grease can be oil based or organic (the two do NOT mix, the organic stuff is dark red in color as opposed to black) Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, June 9, 2005 11:28 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken You want steel shavings (steel dandruff) everywhere? You tend to see flange lubricators clustered around the middle of a bunch of curves (usually 6 degrees [Radius 955.37 Ft or sharper] or greater), on grades and places where truck hunting becomes an issue. You place the paddles and the plunger on the unit where the grease can be carried both ways on the high side of the curve(s). The grease can is sitting under a square or round box and lid about 10 feet to the side and some of the new ones are solar powered to help thin (by heat) and electrically pump the grease. Santa Fe's GP-60's had on board lubricators (as an example).... The grease can be oil based or organic (the two do NOT mix, the organic stuff is dark red in color as opposed to black) Thanks,... Maybe I make things overly difficult by always trying to assume there must be some 'formula' behind everything. And it just occurred to me today that the reason for the greaser being there could just as easily be a "band aid" approach towards fixing a localized nusiance as anything "calculated". Could just as easily be that the MOW gangs have been called out to fix rail in that nearby curve more frequently than somone thinks they should, and the greaser might be a "babysitter" type solution? Reply Edit Leon Silverman Member sinceJuly 2004 785 posts Posted by Leon Silverman on Thursday, June 9, 2005 2:35 PM CSSHEGEWISCH: I grew up in Southwest Philadelphia, where the subway surface cars (PCC trolleys) ran. I usually got on at a corner where the trolleys negotiated a sharp 90 degree turn in the street. The flangeways were manually greased about every 7 to 15 days. This enabled the trolleys to turn quietly for about three days after the greasing. The rest of the time you had to cover your ears. Reply DPD1 Member sinceAugust 2004 484 posts Posted by DPD1 on Friday, June 10, 2005 4:27 PM I've also seen them used in spots where they don't want to have to switch rail out, for as long as possible. There's one just outside a street running track in L.A. Harbor, where the steel train goes each day. The track curves through the street running section. They probably figure that will save having to dig up the street longer. In the old days, they didn't bother putting the tar paper down. The environmentalists loved that. :-) Dave -DPD Productions - Featuring the NEW TrainTenna LP Directional RR Radio Monitoring Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/dpdp/ Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken You want steel shavings (steel dandruff) everywhere? You tend to see flange lubricators clustered around the middle of a bunch of curves (usually 6 degrees [Radius 955.37 Ft or sharper] or greater), on grades and places where truck hunting becomes an issue. You place the paddles and the plunger on the unit where the grease can be carried both ways on the high side of the curve(s). The grease can is sitting under a square or round box and lid about 10 feet to the side and some of the new ones are solar powered to help thin (by heat) and electrically pump the grease. Santa Fe's GP-60's had on board lubricators (as an example).... The grease can be oil based or organic (the two do NOT mix, the organic stuff is dark red in color as opposed to black)
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