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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by oltmannd [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by futuremodal [quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by oltmannd [quote] The "free" market does not fix urban auto pollution since the "external" costs are not born by the individual auto owners. Just look at Mexico City for a current example. [/quote] On the contrary, the free market does address the externalities of urban pollution. It's called "moving". The more people that move away from overpopulated cities out to underpopulated areas, the more that urban pollution is reduced to the point of tolerance. If people choose to stay in polluted areas, then that is their choice, and by that action the "social cost" of the externality is eliminated. It is only an externality if there is no choice. [/quote] Uh... people keep moving into Mexico City.. and dying of the air polution. Does this imply you think the gov't mandated emissions controls (and I mean going all the way back to EGR valves in the 60's) on cars are wrong? What if 90% of the US disagrees with you? If a majority of the US wanted federally funded airships - even if no one ever used them - we would have them. We live in a representative democracy, remember? And if you don't like where it's headed, you can try to convince others of your point of view....and if you fail, you can always........MOVE![:D] [/quote] You're use of a third world national capital as an example is hilarious. Last time I checked folks from Mexico are still MOVING illegally to the U.S. in droves. If you want a U.S. example of what I'm talking about, just look at the rate of depopulation out of the polluted Northeast to the South and West. The example is clear; given time, folks will move away from areas that are unpleasant and into areas that are suitable for a quality of life. That is the free market in action. The U.S. is unique compared to other nations in that much of its population still resides outside the metropoli, unlike the banana republics. Our forefathers were wise in taking action to encourage settlement of these regions, as it dispersed the population into more managable districts. What you want is to turn the U.S. into a third world wannabe, by mandating the cost of pollution "solutions" onto everyone, for the benefit of a few overpopulated cities. There is a wealth of capacity and available infrastructure out here in "red" America to handle more residents, so there is no need to punish us in order to try and make the metropoli even more bloated. And, no, I have no desire to move. I already live in God's country, SUV's and industrial plants included.
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