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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by Colin LC I know that Gunpow wasn't about sleep deprivation or fatigue issues. It was about alcohol and drug use among on duty train crews. I was using it as an example of what it is, a defining moment in American railroad operation and regulation. Engineer certification after being over hundred years a completely inhouse affair became a federal government matter almost overnight. Due to the public outrage and outcry. I mentioned the union Carbide Haz-Mat Incident in Bhopol, India as possible type of incident that can bring again to the RR industry the same kind of outrage and outcry from the public that Ricky Gates brought on. To think that this possibilty is in some realm of fantasy is to delude oneself. Like the possiblity of suicide terrorist using fully fuel jetliners as cruise missiles to slam into American skycrapers. Talk about Socialism vs.Capitalism all you want. Safety is not behold to economic system it is common sense. If the RR don't self regulate now they open up themselves to the imposition of regulation maybe over regulation from an angry public balance sheets be damned. Just like the hubris of RR management of the 19th Century brought about the the draconian ICC. Rgemed, I know that scheduling is not a panacea but a step in right direction. Again look at the Aviation industry! Yes I know the passenger is loosing ton and tons of money per day but the freight side is quite robust. Ask UPS and FedEx. Rgemed, Why do some railroaders think that they are the only profession that does not work 9 to 5. I am a "Narco Ranger" for the NYPD and today I will have worked over 24 hours straight w/o sleep doing arrest processing. So I know about "lifestyle"! But that no excuse for working safely and going home to your families in one piece. [/quote] Colin, I don't think that railroaders are the only profession that does not work 9 to 5. Your career is a perfect example of my point. You said you were working 24 straight hours w/o sleep in a safety sensitive job. Now, do you think I as a general citizen have a right to suggest that you are unsafe because you work to much. No, I don't, and neither do you when it comes to railroading
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