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[quote]QUOTE: Originally posted by greyhounds [ss not. Gas "taxes" are basically user fees - no one has to pay them (at least directly) if they don't drive. People can choose to live in a condo in downtown Chicago and never fork over a gas "tax" dime at a pump. Conversely, the money taken (stolen?) from out paychecks to fund Amtrak is going to be taken wether we use Amtak or not. [/quote] Not so fast there buddy. Money given to Amtrak isn't STOLEN out of people's paychecks anymore than money dumped into the overly subsidized air and highways systems are. The gas tax "user fee" is a myth, since those taxes hardly pay HALF of what it costs to build the roads. They don't even come close to paying for these things... -Law enforcement -Court costs (DUIs, etc). -pollution -original construction of the Interstate highway system. Paid entirely by federal funds - not user fees. That "Big Dig" in Boston - that freeway project has cost about $30 billion - what Amtrak has received in its 30 years. I guarentee you very little of that money paid to build that monster freeway program came out of the gas tax. Even if it WAS paid for by so-called "user fees" - a majority of the funding would have been "stolen" out of the pockets of taxpayers who do or don't own cars in Oklahoma, California, Oregon, Colorado, and many other places that one might ignorantly think won't benefit from such a highway project. Ditto for Denver International Airport - which cost as much if not more. I-70 between St. Louis and Kansas City needs to be rebuilt. Estimated cost: $3 biliion. Missouri's senators say they have no idea WHERE that money will come from. Oh I forgot. Those "user fees" are supposed to pay for that money-losing highway that is totally irrelevant to anyone on the East or West coast.
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