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Who said the bridge caused the derailment? No need to convey to "us", we know it. It is a different question beside the cause of the accident. Was the high water level so unusual high that a reduced speed would have been appropriate. Depending on the accident's cause it might not have happened or the aftermath might have been less severe. The question to answer was the high water unusual. I think yes others think otherwise. I had hoped Jeff Hergert might share his view of how UP handels such situation. He decided against it and is his right. To put the flooding into perspective I look at the discharge at the Rock River gage near Rock Valley. Discharge at around 2:00 am on June 22, 2018 was about 35,000 cubic feet per second. <a href="https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&site_no=06483500&period=&begin_date=2018-06-18&end_date=2018-06-25">https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&site_no=06483500&period=&begin_date=2018-06-18&end_date=2018-06-25</a> In the time frame from 1947 to 2018 this discharge was only exceeded in 1969 (40,400) and 2014 (60,600). <a href="https://nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/peak?site_no=06483500&agency_cd=USGS&format=html">https://nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/peak?site_no=06483500&agency_cd=USGS&format=html</a> Everybody can draw his own conclusions. And again, though there is rule 6.21, I think it was the job of MofW and Engineering to impose speed restrictions if necessary not the crew's. Regards, Volker
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