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Sorry, if I/we held you of from posting. I'd really appreciate your first hand knowledge. The problem in this discussion seems to be that the participating railroaders don't have experience with Rule 6.21 or don't reveal it. I hope your post could put the discussion on a foundation. It is not like dehusman said, that we know nothing. We know the Rock River gage 10 miles upriver from Doon showed a first peak above Major Flood Stage 16 hours before the accident as well as the Rock Valley gage less than 10 miles downriver showing 1.5 ft less than record level about 3.5 hours before the accident. We have the video from the Sheriff Department with video sequences of tank cars on the river bridge. We have the pile-up that for me doesn't look it happend at a reduced speed. And we have Rule 6.21 that for me as a civil engineer seems to take into consideration that with unusual high waters hidden track defects that cannot get detected by visual inspection only are more likely than in different situations. But I might get it wrong here. So first hand experience is needed. Regards, Volker
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