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Oh, I see where you are coming from the group of which I was included in prior to being on a jury. They would be the ones that can't imagine someone getting RICH off of someone dying or injuring themselves. Although that is the ONLY way to hold a company responsible for neglect. Kind of difficult to put a company in jail isn't it. I had a hard time with this UNTIL I saw some obvious neglect(SIGHT DISTANCE,HORN BLOWING) and heard from a mother who lost a daughter describe this to me. I never really understood this until then. THAT is why I am here because that needs to be understood. Just like you going to jail for neglect causing someones death, the ONLY way to hold a company responsible is to award the victims family a monetary amount. If you can come up with a better way, please let us know. I feel jail time for those who propagate the "profit before safety" attitude would be a wonderful start, don't you? <br />Mike <br /> <br />From the 'Lectric Law Library's stacks <br />The Actual Facts About <br />The Mcdonalds' Coffee Case <br /> <br />There is a lot of hype about the McDonalds' scalding coffee case. No <br />one is in favor of frivolous cases of outlandish results; however, it is <br />important to understand some points that were not reported in most of <br />the stories about the case. McDonalds coffee was not only hot, it was <br />scalding -- capable of almost instantaneous destruction of skin, flesh <br />and muscle. Here's the whole story. <br /> <br />Stella Liebeck of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was in the passenger seat of <br />her grandson's car when she was severely burned by McDonalds' coffee in <br />February 1992. Liebeck, 79 at the time, ordered coffee that was served <br />in a styrofoam cup at the drivethrough window of a local McDonalds. <br /> <br />After receiving the order, the grandson pulled his car forward and <br />stopped momentarily so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her <br />coffee. (Critics of civil justice, who have pounced on this case, often <br />charge that Liebeck was driving the car or that the vehicle was in <br />motion when she spilled the coffee; neither is true.) Liebeck placed <br />the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the plastic lid from <br />the cup. As she removed the lid, the entire contents of the cup spilled <br />into her lap. <br /> <br />The sweatpants Liebeck was wearing absorbed the coffee and held it next <br />to her skin. A vascular surgeon determined that Liebeck suffered full <br />thickness burns (or third-degree burns) over 6 percent of her body, <br />including her inner thighs, perineum, buttocks, and genital and groin <br />areas. She was hospitalized for eight days, during which time she <br />underwent skin grafting. Liebeck, who also underwent debridement <br />treatments, sought to settle her claim for $20,000, but McDonalds <br />refused. <br /> <br />During discovery, McDonalds produced documents showing more than 700 <br />claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some claims <br />involved third-degree burns substantially similar to Liebecks. This <br />history documented McDonalds' knowledge about the extent and nature of <br />this hazard. <br /> <br />McDonalds also said during discovery that, based on a consultants <br />advice, it held its coffee at between 180 and 190 degrees fahrenheit to <br />maintain optimum taste. He admitted that he had not evaluated the <br />safety ramifications at this temperature. Other establishments sell <br />coffee at substantially lower temperatures, and coffee served at home is <br />generally 135 to 140 degrees. <br /> <br />Further, McDonalds' quality assurance manager testified that the company <br />actively enforces a requirement that coffee be held in the pot at 185 <br />degrees, plus or minus five degrees. He also testified that a burn <br />hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above, <br />and that McDonalds coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured <br />into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn <br />the mouth and throat. The quality assurance manager admitted that burns <br />would occur, but testified that McDonalds had no intention of reducing <br />the "holding temperature" of its coffee. <br /> <br />Plaintiffs' expert, a scholar in thermodynamics applied to human skin <br />burns, testified that liquids, at 180 degrees, will cause a full <br />thickness burn to human skin in two to seven seconds. Other testimony <br />showed that as the temperature decreases toward 155 degrees, the extent <br />of the burn relative to that temperature decreases exponentially. Thus, <br />if Liebeck's spill had involved coffee at 155 degrees, the liquid would <br />have cooled and given her time to avoid a serious burn. <br /> <br />McDonalds asserted that customers buy coffee on their way to work or <br />home, intending to consume it there. However, the companys own research <br />showed that customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while <br />driving. <br /> <br />McDonalds also argued that consumers know coffee is hot and that its <br />customers want it that way. The company admitted its customers were <br />unaware that they could suffer thirddegree burns from the coffee and <br />that a statement on the side of the cup was not a "warning" but a <br />"reminder" since the location of the writing would not warn customers of <br />the hazard. <br /> <br />The jury awarded Liebeck $200,000 in compensatory damages. This amount <br />was reduced to $160,000 because the jury found Liebeck 20 percent at <br />fault in the spill. The jury also awarded Liebeck $2.7 million in <br />punitive damages, which equals about two days of McDonalds' coffee <br />sales. <br /> <br />Post-verdict investigation found that the temperature of coffee at the <br />local Albuquerque McDonalds had dropped to 158 degrees fahrenheit. <br /> <br />The trial court subsequently reduced the punitive award to $480,000 -- <br />or three times compensatory damages -- even though the judge called <br />McDonalds' conduct reckless, callous and willful. <br /> <br />No one will ever know the final ending to this case. <br /> <br />The parties eventually entered into a secret settlement which has never <br />been revealed to the public, despite the fact that this was a public <br />case, litigated in public and subjected to extensive media reporting. <br />Such secret settlements, after public trials, should not be condoned. <br />----- <br />excerpted from ATLA fact sheet. ©1995, 1996 by Consumer Attorneys of <br />California <br /> <br />
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