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[quote user="runnerdude48"]Well, I was going to comment but, except for Volker, you have all said it better than I could. Let the people vote again. [/quote] It happens that people have differing opinions. ;-) Perhaps we are not so far apart as you think. I argued that HSR can compete with air travel on the SF to LA relation. And there can be benefits for the state beyond the pure train revenue a investor wouldn't benefit from. If that is good enough to proceed with the project at the risk that the trains run at a deficit is a polital question. Being a German and living there I try to keep out of American politics. But being socialized with functioning rail passenger system, long distance as well as commuter and regional I am biased. From Hamburg to Stuttgart, the same distance as SF to LA, I would never fly though the train takes two more hours. American railroads don't lend themselfes to updates to 125 mph. With the American way of running freight trains, long and slow, this would just enlarge the problems Amtrak has with its long distance trains. So if there is a political or public will (and there was during the Obama administration) separate tracks are the best solution. Regards, Volker
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